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Re: Show HN: Netflix for AI-Generated Videos

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I will go out of my way to make sure I consume nothing generated by AI just to spite people like you. AI art and speech is dystopian and off-putting when you realize it's just some machine learning algorithm regurgitating some garbage it was fed before and has no sincere human work or attention to detail. It also steals the works of artists and writers to provide literally nothing of value, and AI bros will fight too…

> I will go out of my way to make sure I consume nothing generated by AI just to spite people like you. I don't know you. I don't interact with you. I have no stake in what entertainment you consume. Your decision does not impact me. I feel no spite when you make these decisions.

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Re: Show HN: Netflix for AI-Generated Videos

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It kinda seemed like creating automatic garbage content-churning machines for children was already a solved problem and I'm not sure what new AI would add to it. There were content farms pumping out "finger family" videos where the same video would be uploaded thousands of times but with a different JPEG swapped in so this video is "Spider-Man" and this video is "Joker" etc. And kids gobbled them up apparently. They'…

It may have already been solved, in the way that cars were "already solved" by the model-t or airplanes were "already solved" by the Wright brothers. That doesn't mean there isn't room for improvement in this space (for some definition of improvement). I just see a lot of people in this thread (and other related threads) seemingly suggesting that since these videos aren't already better than Pixar or some other arbit…

I think the room for improvement is much smaller when it's content aimed at toddlers. I don't find it improbable that we've already reached the "peak".

Re: Show HN: Netflix for AI-Generated Videos

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What's the alternative? The government banning AI TV for 30 years until the long term studies are done? Young kids already have access to the internet at a young age and that's screwing them up royally anyway

Is this a serious argument in favor of doing nothing to protect children because they're already being screwed up? "Why not let it get worse"? Plenty of stuff is already restricted as "adults only", it wouldn't be unprecedented to also restrict this. I can imagine various arguments for it - for example, "since it's generated by AI nobody can be held accountable if the content is inappropriate for children and there i…

sounds like the real problem was lack of human review before hitting publish, not that it was AI generated.

Re: Show HN: Netflix for AI-Generated Videos

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There are some clever folks on gig sites (Fiverr, Upwork, etc) who are feeding stock video into AI just for the "artificialization" of each frame, while visually retaining the same actors' features, clothing and background scenes -- which also allows cuts that are longer than 4s. The results are surprisingly good, as long as you can find stock footage of the scenes you need.

We are building a tool to generated animated videos from prompt. You can expect infotainment style 2d videos https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLUYhiBehAnloAfgA4Nuvk...

Is the tool available to try yet?

Re: Show HN: Netflix for AI-Generated Videos

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I think this sort of proves out that video is a fair bit further away than just text-based reasoning becoming mass market. When you use just text the mind is able to interpolate away and/or fill in some of the uncanny parts. With video, it's just not possible -- the uncanny valley is novel at first, but boring in the long run. Video will have a much much higher bar to pass than text and I think it will take some time…

>Video will have a much much higher bar to pass than text and I think it will take some time still. I am not so sure about that. The real hurdle at this point seems to be getting something like Dall-E to produce multiple angles and poses of a scene while maintaining characteristics of the elements in the scene. At that point it is an interpolation problem. I admit I am not an expert on these, but these do not seem in…

> getting something to produce multiple angles and poses of a scene while maintaining characteristics of the elements in the scene

This can be done with img2img and Controlnet on Stable Diffusion. But still a lot of manual work involved at least in my setup.

Re: Show HN: Netflix for AI-Generated Videos

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Most of the content production industry is not going to survive generative AI. You can produce your own hyper-customized content on-demand and communities can form around sharing that content. From video games, to text based adventures, to porn - I'd be surprised if humans are going to be competitive with generative AI for much longer. Personally, I enjoyed going back and playing the old Pokemon games for nostalgia.…

I'm glad you enjoyed it but it looks boring as hell. Where's the struggle to overcome? Where's the consequence for freeing the strongest, most manipulative, psychic creature in the universe despite warnings from the experts who created/studied the damn thing? He could crush your mind in an instant, but you're special enough that he instead submits without a fight? Isn't he supposed to be dummy-thicc Alpha or somethin…

I imagine there's a lot more "short stories where things go well for the self-insert protagonist who is very special" out there than "short stories where the self-insert protagonist makes obviously dumb decisions and dies instantly" in the dataset. Maybe they need to finetune on CYOA books edited to look like roleplay, with random choices taken so there's a lot of literal dead ends.

Or maybe it could handle DnD-style where it asks for checks with actual random dice rolls thrown in occasionally. Trying this with ChatGPT (it needed to be told to require checks multiple times) almost worked, but it still really leans toward success. E.g. attacking a goblin camp with the worst tactics imaginable did allow for "failure", but not actual failure. Decide to dance aggressively towards them and roll a 1 on performance? They laugh instead of filling you full of arrows. It's pretty funny but definitely removes all tension.

Re: Show HN: Netflix for AI-Generated Videos

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What's the alternative? The government banning AI TV for 30 years until the long term studies are done? Young kids already have access to the internet at a young age and that's screwing them up royally anyway

Is this a serious argument in favor of doing nothing to protect children because they're already being screwed up? "Why not let it get worse"? Plenty of stuff is already restricted as "adults only", it wouldn't be unprecedented to also restrict this. I can imagine various arguments for it - for example, "since it's generated by AI nobody can be held accountable if the content is inappropriate for children and there i…

I'm what way are things actually restricted to adults only? Idk how you plan to put that into action

Re: Show HN: Netflix for AI-Generated Videos

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Can’t wait for that to happen with zero research into the long term effects that’ll have, but who gives a shit right, we can make money now and not give a fuck later.

What's the alternative? The government banning AI TV for 30 years until the long term studies are done? Young kids already have access to the internet at a young age and that's screwing them up royally anyway

> What's the alternative? The government banning AI TV for 30 years until the long term studies are done?

YES!

YES. Holy shit yes. We don't allow medicines or food additives that are substantially different from previous ones into our food supply FOR THIS EXACT REASON.

You know what would be even better than a ban? If these tech companies gave even the slightest ghost of a shit and maybe didn't immediately sprint to market with half-finished products the effects of which are completely unknown simply because there is no law that is explicitly preventing them from doing so and getting some goddamn information first about them and then bringing them to market. And that would be even better for this, what with a whole bunch of these companies also funneling money into think tanks dedicated to making sure the AI's they are burning money to build don't fucking kill us.

Holy. Actual. Shit. Like imagine being this incredulous at the notion of taking some fucking time to research the effects short term and long term of a new kind of entertainment BEFORE we just shotgun it out into the fucking world to our most impressionable and vulnerable population. Heaven forbid a modicum of reasonable caution, we have INNOVATION TO DO!!!

Christ.

Re: Show HN: Netflix for AI-Generated Videos

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Is this a serious argument in favor of doing nothing to protect children because they're already being screwed up? "Why not let it get worse"? Plenty of stuff is already restricted as "adults only", it wouldn't be unprecedented to also restrict this. I can imagine various arguments for it - for example, "since it's generated by AI nobody can be held accountable if the content is inappropriate for children and there i…

I'm what way are things actually restricted to adults only? Idk how you plan to put that into action

I mean, they SHOULD BE. I as a man am still unpacking unhealthy ideas about sex and women some twenty fucking years on because I got access to pornography WAY too fucking soon and it warped my views of sex when I was too young to properly process it, much less do so with the help of understanding adults who could give me context?

Re: Show HN: Netflix for AI-Generated Videos

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Can’t wait for that to happen with zero research into the long term effects that’ll have, but who gives a shit right, we can make money now and not give a fuck later.

It's not like that's something new or exclusive to tech, right? Coke had cocaine and cigarettes were physician tested and approved. We should have learned from those things but we didn't, and so history will rhyme.

>Coke had cocaine

We removed the wrong additive...

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