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Re: Show HN: Netflix for AI-Generated Videos

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Post by jstarfish »

PrayagBhakar wrote: post #8
aantix wrote: post #4

These are beautiful. Right now, the biggest issue with AI generation seems to be lacking the ability to generate a visual consistency with backgrounds, character faces, etc. Without the consistency, it's really hard to a movie with any sort of narrative. Without that, you're stuck with these small clips of 4 seconds. I've seen some resort to face swapping for post processing, but it's very tedious at the moment.

> Without that, you’re stuck with these small clips of 4 seconds. Considering how many cuts are in modern movies, 4 seconds might be all we need.

Why is this downvoted? It's true.

Modern cinema cuts every 3-4 seconds. String a bunch of those together and you have anything from a TikTok short to a full-length movie.

Re: Show HN: Netflix for AI-Generated Videos

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Post by 0x111 »

Nice to have a directory for this kinda stuff! I've been an avid consumer of AI streaming channels, for example:

- https://www.twitch.tv/watchmeforever (ex Nothing Forever)

- https://www.twitch.tv/raycreationstv (Space Trek Show)

- https://www.twitch.tv/gptv_1 (90s TV Channel)

It would be nice to have that as a category on your site.

Re: Show HN: Netflix for AI-Generated Videos

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Post by onlyrealcuzzo »

tsunamifury wrote: post #11

I think this sort of proves out that video is a fair bit further away than just text-based reasoning becoming mass market. When you use just text the mind is able to interpolate away and/or fill in some of the uncanny parts. With video, it's just not possible -- the uncanny valley is novel at first, but boring in the long run. Video will have a much much higher bar to pass than text and I think it will take some time…

Not convinced.

I doubt AI (by itself) will be generating movies like Disney movies any time ever, tbh.

But I don't doubt that it'll generate enough garbage appealing to enough people that it will account for Disney-like watch time.

Re: Show HN: Netflix for AI-Generated Videos

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Post by kevingadd »

DoesntMatter22 wrote: post #24
ToucanLoucan wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can’t wait for that to happen with zero research into the long term effects that’ll have, but who gives a shit right, we can make money now and not give a fuck later.

What's the alternative? The government banning AI TV for 30 years until the long term studies are done? Young kids already have access to the internet at a young age and that's screwing them up royally anyway

Is this a serious argument in favor of doing nothing to protect children because they're already being screwed up? "Why not let it get worse"?

Plenty of stuff is already restricted as "adults only", it wouldn't be unprecedented to also restrict this. I can imagine various arguments for it - for example, "since it's generated by AI nobody can be held accountable if the content is inappropriate for children and there is no way to ensure the AI adheres to content restrictions, so it can't be shown to children"

Re: Show HN: Netflix for AI-Generated Videos

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Post by zoogeny »

hbn wrote: post #26
zoogeny wrote: post #16

I recall some controversy over AI generated kids YouTube channels. Some people here seem to assume the target market for this AI generated stuff is Hollywood blockbusters or AAA video games. But really, we're going to see an explosion of content made for toddlers. I'm imagining some kind of TikTok like algorithmic magic combined with this AI generated stuff is going to be a huge thing in the near future.

It kinda seemed like creating automatic garbage content-churning machines for children was already a solved problem and I'm not sure what new AI would add to it. There were content farms pumping out "finger family" videos where the same video would be uploaded thousands of times but with a different JPEG swapped in so this video is "Spider-Man" and this video is "Joker" etc. And kids gobbled them up apparently. They'…

It may have already been solved, in the way that cars were "already solved" by the model-t or airplanes were "already solved" by the Wright brothers. That doesn't mean there isn't room for improvement in this space (for some definition of improvement).

I just see a lot of people in this thread (and other related threads) seemingly suggesting that since these videos aren't already better than Pixar or some other arbitrary level of quality they've decided that the technology "isn't ready". I'm suggesting that is a short-sighted viewpoint. Kids (and that actually includes pre-teens and teens) are not going to care. If people generate funny or captivating stuff using this technology then they will definitely overlook the uncanny valley. And the volume at which this content will be created, re-mixed and re-shared will soon outpace any other kind of content source.

I find it a bit amusing since I bet a bunch of nay-sayers probably grew up watching equivalents of Rooster Teeth Halo Red vs. Blue, which was garbage quality for its time. I predict that we'll see at least one massive new studio rise using these "not ready" technologies in the next couple of years.

edit: (As another data point, consider the huge success of Roblox with kids. It certainly isn't due to the visual fidelity of the game. Consider the Roblox equivalent of YouTube that is going to exist pretty soon.)

Re: Show HN: Netflix for AI-Generated Videos

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Post by swatcoder »

joshuahedlund wrote: post #27
mhuffman wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>Video will have a much much higher bar to pass than text and I think it will take some time still. I am not so sure about that. The real hurdle at this point seems to be getting something like Dall-E to produce multiple angles and poses of a scene while maintaining characteristics of the elements in the scene. At that point it is an interpolation problem. I admit I am not an expert on these, but these do not seem in…

> At that point, since a "short video" is really a scene, we are basically at film stage. But silent films, no? Or where are things at as far as generated audio that syncs to the video? (sound effects, dialogue, music - each of which will have its own challenges)

I'm in the camp of "satisfying long-watch video is a long way off", but I don't think matching audio to video will be a big hurdle.

Conceptually -- if you're generating the video from a script, you can feed the script and video into a foley and voice generator that recognizes "door slammed" and inserts the kind of sound associated with a door slam and that recognizes face changes and generates speech audio keyed to match. Those tasks will be solved independently on the way to long-form video itself getting sorted because you can exercise them with non-AI video along the way.

I'd be shocked if somebody hasn't already made some good demos of the foley and lip sync stuff.

Re: Show HN: Netflix for AI-Generated Videos

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Post by bee_rider »

mjr00 wrote: post #12
r3trohack3r wrote: post #9

Most of the content production industry is not going to survive generative AI. You can produce your own hyper-customized content on-demand and communities can form around sharing that content. From video games, to text based adventures, to porn - I'd be surprised if humans are going to be competitive with generative AI for much longer. Personally, I enjoyed going back and playing the old Pokemon games for nostalgia.…

This just reads like poorly written fanfiction. While using generative AI to make your own self-insert fanfic is definitely a use case, I'm not really sure how this translates to the death of the entertainment industry.

Fan fiction just denotes the unofficial nature of the stuff. For example Star Wars is a tent-pole franchise for the world’s largest media company, but quality-wise recent entries range from poor fan fiction (most of it) to good fan fiction (Filoni).

I don’t know if officially sanctioned self-insert stories would kill the entertainment industry, but they’ll certainly change how things work. Video games are already giving movies a pretty good run for their money, and that’s with an arbitrary skill threshold to keep people out…

Re: Show HN: Netflix for AI-Generated Videos

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Post by HerculePoirot »

_chu1 wrote: post #17
r3trohack3r wrote: post #9

Most of the content production industry is not going to survive generative AI. You can produce your own hyper-customized content on-demand and communities can form around sharing that content. From video games, to text based adventures, to porn - I'd be surprised if humans are going to be competitive with generative AI for much longer. Personally, I enjoyed going back and playing the old Pokemon games for nostalgia.…

I will go out of my way to make sure I consume nothing generated by AI just to spite people like you. AI art and speech is dystopian and off-putting when you realize it's just some machine learning algorithm regurgitating some garbage it was fed before and has no sincere human work or attention to detail. It also steals the works of artists and writers to provide literally nothing of value, and AI bros will fight too…

I'm not sure. I just watched "Anime Rock, Paper, Scissors" release in February, and the quality of the animation (modulo some instability in shadows) is mind blowing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GVT3WUa-48Y

Re: Show HN: Netflix for AI-Generated Videos

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Post by jstarfish »

r3trohack3r wrote: post #9

Most of the content production industry is not going to survive generative AI. You can produce your own hyper-customized content on-demand and communities can form around sharing that content. From video games, to text based adventures, to porn - I'd be surprised if humans are going to be competitive with generative AI for much longer. Personally, I enjoyed going back and playing the old Pokemon games for nostalgia.…

I'm glad you enjoyed it but it looks boring as hell.

Where's the struggle to overcome?

Where's the consequence for freeing the strongest, most manipulative, psychic creature in the universe despite warnings from the experts who created/studied the damn thing? He could crush your mind in an instant, but you're special enough that he instead submits without a fight? Isn't he supposed to be dummy-thicc Alpha or something?

Every choice you make is the Right one. You always win and nothing ever really goes wrong for you.

This isn't a game, it's an ego-stroking experience.

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