This thread is already a damning indictment of google cloud. Price cuts alone won't attract customers -- google has sustained significant reputational damage with their crappy customer service and support. That's hard to fix
Google Cloud Spanner is now half the cost of Amazon DynamoDB
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Re: Google Cloud Spanner is now half the cost of Amazon DynamoDB
#32Re: Google Cloud Spanner is now half the cost of Amazon DynamoDB
#33Without an on-demand version of spanner that doesn't charge per node but per operation makes it not comparable to dynamodb for many use cases.
Exactly: I have to provision for peak throughput on Spanner. Average throughput is much lower than the peak throughput, so I'm doubtful of seeing savings no Spanner.
(But I bet that Spanner is much easier than DynamoDB to develop with...)
Re: Google Cloud Spanner is now half the cost of Amazon DynamoDB
#34A problem for me building on this is that Google Cloud has no coherent strategy. So the price could easily be double or quadruple Amazon in 2 years.
Google Maps is the key lesson here. 10 to 20 times price increase, just because someone had a meeting. No justification or coherent strategy, just "sorry here's a shiv to the gut".
At least with Amazon, as chaotic as it is, you know that they just mark stuff up to the margin they want and let the market sort out what gets used. Google is into secretive grand strategy that changes completely anytime 4 product managers get together in a room.
Re: Google Cloud Spanner is now half the cost of Amazon DynamoDB
#35And for many projects, Postgres is still cheaper than both. Having used both, I would much, much rather do the work to fit my project in Postgres/CockroachDB than use either Spanner or DynamoDB, which have WAY more footguns. Not to mention sudden cost spikes, vendor lock in, and god knows what else. AWS and GCP (and Azure, and Oracle cloud, and bare Kubernetes via an operator, and...) support Postgres really well. Ju…
Postgres is a piece of software. Cloud Spanner/Dynamo etc are managed services. It makes no sense to directly compare one with the other.
> AWS and GCP (and Azure, and Oracle cloud, and bare Kubernetes via an operator, and...) support Postgres really well.
I think they're directly comparable with this context.
Re: Google Cloud Spanner is now half the cost of Amazon DynamoDB
#36If only someone could actually run and publish comparison benchmarks, but DeWitt clause by Spanner makes it impossible.
Re: Google Cloud Spanner is now half the cost of Amazon DynamoDB
#37One of the main reasons I'm uneasy about cloud databases is the sheer absurdity of trying to meaningfully compare offerings and their value for money.
Re: Google Cloud Spanner is now half the cost of Amazon DynamoDB
#38And for many projects, Postgres is still cheaper than both. Having used both, I would much, much rather do the work to fit my project in Postgres/CockroachDB than use either Spanner or DynamoDB, which have WAY more footguns. Not to mention sudden cost spikes, vendor lock in, and god knows what else. AWS and GCP (and Azure, and Oracle cloud, and bare Kubernetes via an operator, and...) support Postgres really well. Ju…
just migrated off of PG to ddb as the main db for my application (still copying data to SQL for data analytics). Working with distributed functions and code hosted on lambdas, the connection management to SQL became a nightmare with dropped requests all over the place.
A connection pooling proxy should fix this shouldn't it? I think both Google and AWS have this solved for functions as a service.
Re: Google Cloud Spanner is now half the cost of Amazon DynamoDB
#39Re: Google Cloud Spanner is now half the cost of Amazon DynamoDB
#40But a droplet with a Postgres db is nearly free, and seriously performant.
And for 65/month, you can get a VERY beefy Hetzner server.
You’ll have to wade through the crazy thicket that is the menu of cloud offerings.
I gave that one look, and decided I might as well give up and learn the basics of Linux admin once and apply it for life.