If Copilot loses this much, just imagine how much OpenAI is losing on non-paying users using ChatGPT. Who's gonna pay for this as soon as the VC money runs out?
GitHub Copilot loses an average of $20 per user per month
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Re: GitHub Copilot loses an average of $20 per user per month
#202Earlier quoted context omitted.
Maybe if you live around the bay area where you get paid absurd money by the hour for a job that can be done overseas for 10 bucks, outside or the rest of the world that 100 usd is per week tops, thats way too much i would pay for service that only barely helps my in my day to day... If you need to constantly use chatgpt/copilot to do your job properly, maybe its time to learn something else because your job will be…
Does it barely help you, or can it completely automate your job? You can't have it both ways. I find it hard to believe there is a scenario where it actually helps you, but only provides $5 of value in a month. What exact kind help is that? If it is able to provide $5 in help, you could likely scale that to $20.
Maybe if you are website designer... ohh m sorry i should say the modern way website designers call themselves today "frontend engineer", maybe if you are a designer it could help you with all the boilerplate your react/astro/svelte requires just to add a with two columns.
Re: GitHub Copilot loses an average of $20 per user per month
#203The moment I can train Copilot on my codebase and improve its predictions, I’d gladly pay more than $20. Even now, I find that I can’t live without it simply as a slightly more intelligent auto-complete.
Re: GitHub Copilot loses an average of $20 per user per month
#204It’s become such an integral part of my workflow, that until Zed got Copilot integration I couldn’t switch to it.
Of course I’d prefer to continue paying $10 a month.
Re: GitHub Copilot loses an average of $20 per user per month
#205Earlier quoted context omitted.
And management consultants solving every problem in the world by adding a “AI” box in their powerpoint flow diagram.
Yep, just like "crypto" before that, and "big data" before that and "social media presence" before that and so on and so forth...
Re: GitHub Copilot loses an average of $20 per user per month
#206or are they suffering similiar lose?
Re: GitHub Copilot loses an average of $20 per user per month
#207Copilot is useless compared to chat-gpt4. There's really no comparison. As far as the costs, it seems like transmitting things repeatedly would be more expensive than the chat model where you just transmit things when you want them.
I disagree. I have both but I use Copilot a lot more. Editing the results of ChatGPT takes as long as it would take for me to write the code myself. Whereas Copilot is autocomplete, you can choose whether to accept it or not line by line.
Re: GitHub Copilot loses an average of $20 per user per month
#208FWIW, a GitHub employee just said on stage at the AI Engineer Summit that this claim is "not true" and that it's a roughly $100m ARR product (first keynote speaker in this stream: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qw4PrtyvJI0 )
Re: GitHub Copilot loses an average of $20 per user per month
#209Earlier quoted context omitted.
I disagree. I have both but I use Copilot a lot more. Editing the results of ChatGPT takes as long as it would take for me to write the code myself. Whereas Copilot is autocomplete, you can choose whether to accept it or not line by line.
Are you using ChatGPT 4 or 3.5? GPT 4 is phenomenal.
By default, ChatGPT can only give a generic answer. Do you just paste the entire file in there?
For example let’s say I want to write a function foo() that calls functions bar() and baz() defined in the same file and uses a library Y that I already imported. If I just write the name of the function, Copilot will often autocomplete a reasonable body for me. If I wanted to use ChatGPT then I would have to first tell it about foo() and bar() and the dependency on Y, and by the time I’ve finished telling it about all of that I could have written the function by hand twice over.
Re: GitHub Copilot loses an average of $20 per user per month
#210FWIW, a GitHub employee just said on stage at the AI Engineer Summit that this claim is "not true" and that it's a roughly $100m ARR product (first keynote speaker in this stream: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qw4PrtyvJI0 )
Revenue != profit