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Apple patents suggest future AirPods could monitor biosignals and brain activity

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Re: Apple patents suggest future AirPods could monitor biosignals and brain activity

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Post by baggachipz »

specialist wrote: post #26
swatcoder wrote: post #14

The comments coming in so far are off track. This is about enabling pretty low key but useful biofeedback things like meditation training and maybe ear temperature for health tracking. The signals that would be available to AirPods are very limited and already pretty well understood. Apple’s achievement (as often) would really be in their industrial technique for producing accurate, efficient, affordable sensors that…

I'm so ready for any and all progress on health monitoring. Use cases like early detection and monitoring of strokes, seizures, Parkinson's, dementia, and so forth. Per Rosalind Picard, we're just at the very beginning of affective computing. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Affective_computing "Yes please" to each and every single thing Picard and others are working on. https://www.affectiva.com/what/products/ https://…

Seizure prediction would get me to purchase and wear an Apple Watch and/or Earbuds all the time.

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Post by fragmede »

cmiller1 wrote: post #4

It's tangential to this but the integration of biofeedback with headphones reminded me something I've dreamed of having off and on for years. I would really love a music player that uses some kind of biological sensing data to help inform what it plays. When I'm exercising I'd love for my phone to be able to figure out my intensity through some metrics (heart rate, respiration, skin temperature, accelerometers) and s…

Curious, I go the other way - I listen to pump-up music when I want to get pumped up, not after. Similarly, I put on sleepy music to put me to sleep. Though if my devices could heart my intentions, that would be magical.

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Post by dmonitor »

fragmede wrote: post #62
cmiller1 wrote: post #4

It's tangential to this but the integration of biofeedback with headphones reminded me something I've dreamed of having off and on for years. I would really love a music player that uses some kind of biological sensing data to help inform what it plays. When I'm exercising I'd love for my phone to be able to figure out my intensity through some metrics (heart rate, respiration, skin temperature, accelerometers) and s…

Curious, I go the other way - I listen to pump-up music when I want to get pumped up, not after. Similarly, I put on sleepy music to put me to sleep. Though if my devices could heart my intentions, that would be magical.

I’ve noticed this kind of trend with technology. Algorithms don’t intuit where you want to go, only where you are. Leads to a feedback loop where you just become more stuck in your current patterns.

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Post by cmiller1 »

jrockway wrote: post #56
cmiller1 wrote: post #4

It's tangential to this but the integration of biofeedback with headphones reminded me something I've dreamed of having off and on for years. I would really love a music player that uses some kind of biological sensing data to help inform what it plays. When I'm exercising I'd love for my phone to be able to figure out my intensity through some metrics (heart rate, respiration, skin temperature, accelerometers) and s…

I am not sure you need any technology here. You pretty much always have the same cycling and running cadence; so pick a song that's 180bpm (not sure if that's right for running), and there you go. How much effort you exert depends on how long your strides are or what gear you're in, but if you're doing a big climb or something the beat of the music can remind you to keep your cadence at the optimal rate. (That said,…

I'm certainly not lifting weights at 180hz

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Post by ssk42 »

tokamak-teapot wrote: post #49
cmiller1 wrote: post #4

It's tangential to this but the integration of biofeedback with headphones reminded me something I've dreamed of having off and on for years. I would really love a music player that uses some kind of biological sensing data to help inform what it plays. When I'm exercising I'd love for my phone to be able to figure out my intensity through some metrics (heart rate, respiration, skin temperature, accelerometers) and s…

Last night while I was choosing something to fall asleep to, Spotify suggested Nirvana’s Nevermind. Just getting as advanced as “this human normally puts chilled music on at this time of day, which is also the time many people go to sleep in this time zone” would be a start.

Search for "daylist" on Spotify and it'll come up with exactly that

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cmiller1 wrote: post #4

It's tangential to this but the integration of biofeedback with headphones reminded me something I've dreamed of having off and on for years. I would really love a music player that uses some kind of biological sensing data to help inform what it plays. When I'm exercising I'd love for my phone to be able to figure out my intensity through some metrics (heart rate, respiration, skin temperature, accelerometers) and s…

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Post by posix_compliant »

RockRobotRock wrote: post #50
tetris11 wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Same, as well as serving me better ads that I will be more susceptible to in a more euphoric state of mind.

I was feeling a bit down today when I heard a whisper: BetterHelp telehealth therapy. Use offer code GOOG10 for 10% off your first month

At this point I have become intransigently opposed to using betterhelp due to the incessant ad spam I've been subjected to over the last few years.

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Post by mepian »

codr7 wrote: post #36
mepian wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No one is going to eavesdrop on your thoughts without drilling a hole through your skull.

How can you be so sure? Maybe not today, but with better sensors and neural networks I'd say anything is possible. That's not what's bothering me most in the long run though. Because there's no way in hell they'll be able to resist the temptation to manipulate our brains directly if they ever develop the capability. Technology is neither good nor bad, but it enables better and worse with every iteration.

>How can you be so sure?

I studied biomedical engineering, it's really difficult to get anything useful out of a human brain non-invasively even if you are Apple. Neural networks are not magic, they can't do much with such low SNR.

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Post by an_aparallel »

the general population, and surprisingly a lot of tech heads dont care about the implications of brain wave activity, linked to your identity - phoning home to a corporation of google's size?

we're one thought away for being thrown into jail for shower thoughts that go slightly the wrong side of "publicly acceptable".

i think ALL of this technology is incredibly cool and exciting, BUT - my excitement is hampered by the internets current panopticapitalism/surveillance economy. Asking for "government to step in" as i often hear is pretty funny, seeing as what Snowden has shown us...it is often they who are lobbying for increased and tighter surveillance....

/sad.

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Post by astrange »

crazygringo wrote: post #13

Is this even remotely feasible though, technologically? I briefly tried using the Muse headband, a cheap (~$200) brain EEG device that connects to your phone via Bluetooth, and it was pretty much a disaster. It had five metal contacts across the forehead, but could never keep all five correctly working, so it was constantly showing errors in the app about insufficient data. Given that we still haven't figured out how…

I found the original Muse unusable because it'd stop reading so easily, but the updated Muse S is okay at it.

It does still take too long to charge, and the first one I got leaked dye on my pillow.

I also bought another product https://getbia.com as the features sounded interesting, but as they haven't shipped yet, can't say if it works.

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