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Extreme parkour with legged robots

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Re: Extreme parkour with legged robots

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The most impressive thing about the video is not the skill but the control of their fear.

Not that have experience, but I feel like that's just practice. Your subconscious needs to learn that it's not necessarily going to die when it does that, and your subconscious learns from experience, so if you did it 10 times and nothing went wrong, you'll be less scared.

"just" practice

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The difference being each human has to spend thousands of hours learning that level of control over their bodies, and work hard to maintain that level of physical fitness. And if they fall off the roof, millions of dollars of potential earnings and GDP die with them. Whereas these robots are only $70k, and once one of them can do this, they all can do it. Just like with Chess and Go. It’s not impressive at first, the…

I think in humans it will be possible Matrix style as well

only if we can crack transferrable skill-memories. I think the current thinking is that each human have different neuron nets patterns though mostly in the same general regions

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Once again, how does this improve national security? That's offense not defense. It worsens the national security of your opponent but doesn't strengthen your own.

How does it not? Consider terrain such as the mountain ranges along the side of California. Or the entirety of Japan. Wheeled and tracked vehicles generally have problems in that terrain. Legged robots don't. Suddenly your troops intended to operate in mountainous terrain have a reliable robot donkey to use as a packmule. Many countries (US, Germany, France, Italy, etc) still use horses and donkeys for transport in b…

There is certain terrain legged robot will struggle with too

Re: Extreme parkour with legged robots

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This gives me Black Mirror-fueled nightmares... not least because those videos suggest that a Black Mirror scenario may not be that far off and what probably saves us for now is battery capacity.

"More Black Mirror than Mirror's Edge" was my takeaway too. In terms of Parkour this is slow and awkward, but it's like watching a baby taking their first steps towards murder. The most important hurdle for many soldiers is the one these machines never needed the help of AI to get over. Even after dehumanizing the enemy many soldiers are "non-firers" and won't shoot another person even if their own life is in danger,…

Don’t worry, we’ll learn how to kill the fuck out of robots too…

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Nature can’t really make a nice wheel and free wheeling hub though. Blood vessels would get ripped off, cartilage etc.

Nature does it own version of a "wheel", mainly in flagella: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rotating_locomotion_in_livin...

That’s very true but it doesn’t seem to scale up well from that. :)

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I'm sure this is impressive for an autonomous robot. However, as a fan of real parkour its kinda annoying to see some modest jumps and walking on a slope labelled "extreme parkour". What the robot demonstrates I'd expect any healthy 10 year old to be able to equal.

Given the title, the video was indeed a bit disappointing but I imagine that “extreme” is ironic or at least relative.

I imagined a reference to The Office

Re: Extreme parkour with legged robots

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Relative size of leaps doesn't seem to be a particularly useful metric for assessing the NN performance anyway, since in the absence of the human constraint of fear it's really limited only by the mechanics of its legs and its weight. More impressive would be adaptation to obstacles without clearly delineated edges, sticking landings on uneven/moving landing sites, and especially avoidance of landing sites which appe…

I'll extend 'avoidance of landing sites which appear incapable of supporting its weight properly' to 'avoidance of landing sites which are off-limits, including living things' E.g. A sleeping dog that is motionless, a valuable item, wet concrete. I suppose I'm going out-of-scope, though.

I'd watch the video of one of those stepping on a sleeping dog tbf...
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