I really like the UI in the sound production software. It's neat, has good colors and keep being eye candy even given the number of controls and information it provides.
Is it some sort of standardized style guide for this kind of UI or everyone just takes inspiration by some industry leader products?
Ardour 8.0
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Re: Ardour 8.0
#32I'm not a musician, but I've been happily using Ardour to edit a podcast for many years now (paying for a subscription the whole time too) and I really like the workflow I arrived at with it.
One particular feature I like is the ability to edit while playing the audio at 2x speed, which I use to do a quick first pass where I remove obvious things like dead air, coughs, uhms, etc., before doing a second pass at 1x looking for finer details to fix. However, I've found that this feature has been worsened a bit since v6, so I've been stuck at v5 this whole time despite the many new releases. Every time a new version comes out I try it out immediately, but so far v5 has been the superior one for my particular workflow.
I'm not complaining though, for as long as Ardour 5 still runs on my computer I'll be a happy user, and I'm very grateful for Ardour's existence, but I wonder if anyone else uses it the way I do and if they've had the same issue with newer versions.
Re: Ardour 8.0
#33Earlier quoted context omitted.
I thought Ardour was a commercial product? If you want to download a binary from their site it's either a demo version with injected silence every 10 minutes, or a paid-for option (either a small monthly sub or a larger one-off payment). You can build it locally yourself for free of course, but I don't know if many non-devs would do that.
It is not really a commercial product, rather it follows an old, but somewhat rare, tradition of making usage slightly more difficult in order to raise funds. OpenBSD used to do the same and not provide pre-built images to raise funds via CD sales from those that could not be bothered to learn how to build images from the source code. You can certainly object to this, but I do find it reasonable as there are few good…
It's also just packaged in Debian which means any distro based on it likely have it.
Re: Ardour 8.0
#34Earlier quoted context omitted.
Looks like a pain to install (doesn't support Fedora 37, isn't included in standard Fedora repositories, requires to use non-standard Wine version).
None of that is Ardour's fault, but the 'fault' of plugin developers not providing Linux binaries in the first place.
If nobody provides Linux binaries then maybe it is better to support Windows binaries out of the box?
Re: Ardour 8.0
#35Looks to be a extensive update with lots of new and useful features, thanks as always PaulDavisThe1st :) Especially Arrangement and Quick Groups will be good time savers for me! > For several years, people downloading Ardour for macOS have had to deal with various kinds of messages (from Apple) saying things like "This program comes from an untrusted source" to "The file is damaged". As of Ardour 8, macOS users downl…
> Hope macOS users live up to the commonly referenced "Apple users are more likely to pay for software" and donate either time or money to Ardour if they use it, as it seems making applications available to them cost developers actual money now.
Just make it $5 on macos. If Mac users can support this shitty company they can actually pay for other software too.
Re: Ardour 8.0
#36Looks to be a extensive update with lots of new and useful features, thanks as always PaulDavisThe1st :) Especially Arrangement and Quick Groups will be good time savers for me! > For several years, people downloading Ardour for macOS have had to deal with various kinds of messages (from Apple) saying things like "This program comes from an untrusted source" to "The file is damaged". As of Ardour 8, macOS users downl…
I thought Ardour was a commercial product? If you want to download a binary from their site it's either a demo version with injected silence every 10 minutes, or a paid-for option (either a small monthly sub or a larger one-off payment). You can build it locally yourself for free of course, but I don't know if many non-devs would do that.
Ardour is very high quality for FOSS. There are many distros that include a free version of Ardour. Ubuntu Studio[1] for instance, and then there are distributions where installing it is an apt-get[2] or yum[3] or whatever[4] away, and paying for it is optional.
[1] https://ubuntustudio.org/2022/11/ardour-7-1-backports-availa...
[2] https://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=ardour
[3] https://packages.fedoraproject.org/pkgs/ardour7/ardour7/
Re: Ardour 8.0
#37Ardour is GPLv2 open-source, but they still do somewhat pointedly attempt to dissuade you from building from source ¹). Now, I fully understand why. And I think charging for pre-built binaries is a totally valid way to attempt to finance an open-source project. The amount they're asking certainly is a pittance compared to the commercial offerings. But LMMS just feels friendlier to me. ¹) https://ardour.org/building_l…
LMMS is a great little program too but in much the same way that a professional mix table is less 'friendly' than a four track recorder.
Both have their uses. What bugs me about LMMS is that it is hard to use its output in any other way than just to send it to your devices, interop with other software isn't all that good unless it is on the plugin side.
And neither Ardour nor LMMS come close to midieditor for the editing of raw midi files, and that's a shame because midieditor isn't very well supported and a bit fragile (it crashes with alarming regularity).
Re: Ardour 8.0
#38Earlier quoted context omitted.
> I thought Ardour was a commercial product? Ardour is licensed under GPLv2.
That is unrelated. Things licensed as open source can still be commercial products. Ardour is open source and can be freely build and distributed, but it's also available as a pre-build product to pay for.
> it's also available as a pre-build product to pay for
Show me where to pay for the pre-built product:
https://community.ardour.org/download?platform=linux&archite...
All I see is a direct download link. If you want to pay that's optional.
Re: Ardour 8.0
#39Looks to be a extensive update with lots of new and useful features, thanks as always PaulDavisThe1st :) Especially Arrangement and Quick Groups will be good time savers for me! > For several years, people downloading Ardour for macOS have had to deal with various kinds of messages (from Apple) saying things like "This program comes from an untrusted source" to "The file is damaged". As of Ardour 8, macOS users downl…
I thought Ardour was a commercial product? If you want to download a binary from their site it's either a demo version with injected silence every 10 minutes, or a paid-for option (either a small monthly sub or a larger one-off payment). You can build it locally yourself for free of course, but I don't know if many non-devs would do that.
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Re: Ardour 8.0
#40Earlier quoted context omitted.
That is unrelated. Things licensed as open source can still be commercial products. Ardour is open source and can be freely build and distributed, but it's also available as a pre-build product to pay for.
> it's also available as a pre-build product to pay for Show me where to pay for the pre-built product: https://community.ardour.org/download?platform=linux&archite... All I see is a direct download link. If you want to pay that's optional.
Have you pressed that button?
""" Subscribe
$1, $4, $10 or $50 per month ... """
""" Single Payment
If you choose to pay less than US$45 ... """
""" Free/Demo Version
Periodically goes silent after 10 minutes.
No access to nightly (development) builds. """
And, if you wonder, you can't enter 0 for the payment.