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Re: Amazon's Alexa Telling Users That 2020 Election Was Rigged

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Post by jki275 »

PrimeMcFly wrote: post #66
jki275 wrote: post #65

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We don't have a "representative democracy" in the US. We have a representative republic. There is a very wide gap between what you believe our system of government is and what it actually is.

No, there is no gap. You're making a rather large assumption. And the US is both a representative democracy (no need for scarequotes) and a representative republic. I used 'representative democracy' (quotes actually make sense here) because the context was about how well democracy as a form of government works. This[0] helpful wiki page may be of interest to you. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Representative_democ…

I'm not the slightest bit interested in what Wikipedia has to say about it.

The US is a republic. Calling it a democracy is done by people who want a different form of government where the majority rules and can remove the rights of the minority.

Re: Amazon's Alexa Telling Users That 2020 Election Was Rigged

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Post by PrimeMcFly »

ginsider_oaks wrote: post #70
PrimeMcFly wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No, not opinions. Demonstrable facts.

> Most of them shouldn't have a right to vote in the first place [in my opinion]. > > These are simply more opinions [...] > > > No, not opinions. Demonstrable facts. you're going to have to explain this one to me

Most of the positions of people who vote GOP are untenable and at odds with our current understanding. Denying climate change is a good example.

Voting on that basis has, and will continue to have real damage for citizens of the country, and thus the country as an entity.

Re: Amazon's Alexa Telling Users That 2020 Election Was Rigged

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Post by PrimeMcFly »

jki275 wrote: post #71
PrimeMcFly wrote: post #66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No, there is no gap. You're making a rather large assumption. And the US is both a representative democracy (no need for scarequotes) and a representative republic. I used 'representative democracy' (quotes actually make sense here) because the context was about how well democracy as a form of government works. This[0] helpful wiki page may be of interest to you. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Representative_democ…

I'm not the slightest bit interested in what Wikipedia has to say about it. The US is a republic. Calling it a democracy is done by people who want a different form of government where the majority rules and can remove the rights of the minority.

So you're denying/rejecting an authoritative source because it doesn't match your own ideas and preconceptions.

Got it.

Re: Amazon's Alexa Telling Users That 2020 Election Was Rigged

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Post by jki275 »

PrimeMcFly wrote: post #73
jki275 wrote: post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not the slightest bit interested in what Wikipedia has to say about it. The US is a republic. Calling it a democracy is done by people who want a different form of government where the majority rules and can remove the rights of the minority.

So you're denying/rejecting an authoritative source because it doesn't match your own ideas and preconceptions. Got it.

Wikipedia has literally never been an authority on anything.

Its use as a source is specifically banned in every academic institution I've attended over my entire adult life.

Re: Amazon's Alexa Telling Users That 2020 Election Was Rigged

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Post by PrimeMcFly »

jki275 wrote: post #74
PrimeMcFly wrote: post #73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So you're denying/rejecting an authoritative source because it doesn't match your own ideas and preconceptions. Got it.

Wikipedia has literally never been an authority on anything. Its use as a source is specifically banned in every academic institution I've attended over my entire adult life.

Wikipedia is an authoritative source of information, has been repeatedly tested and examined for accuracy, and is cited by experts often.

Yes, it's banned in universities, but that's largely as a holdover from when anyone could edit it. Wikipedia is repeatedly tested to be more accurate than Britannica, which has never been banned.

It doesn't matter anyway, as Encyclopedia articles are summaries, and the actual sources can be referenced.

In this case, the article is correct, explains why it is correct, and certainly trumps your baseless assertion.

Re: Amazon's Alexa Telling Users That 2020 Election Was Rigged

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Post by [deleted] »

PrimeMcFly wrote: post #72
ginsider_oaks wrote: post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Most of them shouldn't have a right to vote in the first place [in my opinion]. > > These are simply more opinions [...] > > > No, not opinions. Demonstrable facts. you're going to have to explain this one to me

Most of the positions of people who vote GOP are untenable and at odds with our current understanding. Denying climate change is a good example. Voting on that basis has, and will continue to have real damage for citizens of the country, and thus the country as an entity.

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Re: Amazon's Alexa Telling Users That 2020 Election Was Rigged

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Post by olgeni »

PrimeMcFly wrote: post #33
w4ffl35 wrote: post #31

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You stated you are in favor of rigging elections in order to prevent a person you don't want to be president to become president. Nothing you say on this topic is worth listening to.

Not quite. It's not just about personal preferences. It's about someone who is a clear and present danger to our way of life and the security of the country.

> It's about someone who is a clear and present danger to our way of life and the security of the country.

However, this mirrors what the QAnons and the hardline MAGAs say about Clinton and Biden. Or more or less what Bush used to tell about Saddam. It might be worth noticing.

Re: Amazon's Alexa Telling Users That 2020 Election Was Rigged

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Post by olgeni »

PrimeMcFly wrote: post #72
ginsider_oaks wrote: post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Most of them shouldn't have a right to vote in the first place [in my opinion]. > > These are simply more opinions [...] > > > No, not opinions. Demonstrable facts. you're going to have to explain this one to me

Most of the positions of people who vote GOP are untenable and at odds with our current understanding. Denying climate change is a good example. Voting on that basis has, and will continue to have real damage for citizens of the country, and thus the country as an entity.

I remember the time when "Trump vaccines were developed too quickly for his electoral benefit, and we don't trust them."

Our "current understanding" seems to be shifting a lot.

Re: Amazon's Alexa Telling Users That 2020 Election Was Rigged

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Post by PrimeMcFly »

olgeni wrote: post #77
PrimeMcFly wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not quite. It's not just about personal preferences. It's about someone who is a clear and present danger to our way of life and the security of the country.

> It's about someone who is a clear and present danger to our way of life and the security of the country. However, this mirrors what the QAnons and the hardline MAGAs say about Clinton and Biden. Or more or less what Bush used to tell about Saddam. It might be worth noticing.

Only one side thought JFK was going to reappear. Only one side has a history of believing ridiculous claims with no evidence that repeatedly fail to bear fruit. Maybe that side should be taken less seriously.

Re: Amazon's Alexa Telling Users That 2020 Election Was Rigged

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Post by PrimeMcFly »

olgeni wrote: post #78
PrimeMcFly wrote: post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Most of the positions of people who vote GOP are untenable and at odds with our current understanding. Denying climate change is a good example. Voting on that basis has, and will continue to have real damage for citizens of the country, and thus the country as an entity.

I remember the time when "Trump vaccines were developed too quickly for his electoral benefit, and we don't trust them." Our "current understanding" seems to be shifting a lot.

Nah. Not true at all. No one worth listening to on the left was dismissing the vaccines because Trump talked about them.
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