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Re: Austria rail operator OeBB unveils new night trains

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Post by konschubert »

sschueller wrote: post #14

Don't take the ÖBB night-train from Zürich HB to Amsterdam and back. They sell you the premium package online with fancy pictures of their new trains but the train that shows up is an old 1970 rail car with both toilets locked (broken for weeks I found out), broken doors, broken heater, missing ladders, broken window blinds etc. At this time if they can't even clean the toilets then it is not worth the steep price. H…

If a hotel chain uses pictures from one hotel to advertise another, that's false advertisement.

OBB should be held to the same standard.

Re: Austria rail operator OeBB unveils new night trains

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Post by sabujp »

i don't know about these new night trains but oebb.at is what made our euro trip more affordable. We purchased our eurail pass but then got so confused as to how to purchase the reservations on italian high speed trains using the reduced eurail rates. Eurail's website wasn't showing the routes and trenitalia doesn't have pricing for eurail holders either. Then I learned from some eurail forum that we had to go through oebb's website to purchase the reservations. Thank you oebb and thank you revolut for making USD -> CHF, EUR, GBP conversions super easy.

Re: Austria rail operator OeBB unveils new night trains

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Post by lheck »

easyKL wrote: post #30
untitaker_ wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Additionally from Amsterdam to Zürich 3 people got robbed while still in the Netherlands. This train is reservation only, they could at least lock the doors or something to prevent criminals from boarding. compartments can be locked, locking up the entire train and having the entire boarding process be bottlenecked on ticket inspectors seems highly impractical

Having the ticket control at station building before accessing the platform (airport alike) can be very fast when efficiently done.

ok, just quickly change the entire layout of every station in Central Europe to have ticket control

Re: Austria rail operator OeBB unveils new night trains

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Post by lheck »

_ink_ wrote: post #33

I was hoping that the next generation of trains, will have affordable bunks with more privacy for people that travel solo. Think Japanese capsule hotel style. Sleeping together in a tiny room with 5 strangers is not for everyone.

yeah, they have that, that's the picture in the article...

Re: Austria rail operator OeBB unveils new night trains

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Post by concordDance »

KennyBlanken wrote: post #27
juujian wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I cannot believe that I had a better experience taking the Amtrak in the US than you had with ÖBB :D

Anecdotes - either yours or theirs - are not evidence of overall problems or quality.

They are evidence, but due to selection effects they're generally a small amount of evidence (with the amount depending on the expected size of relevant population - in this case passengers seeing this HN story).

Re: Austria rail operator OeBB unveils new night trains

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Post by sschueller »

untitaker_ wrote: post #18
sschueller wrote: post #14

Don't take the ÖBB night-train from Zürich HB to Amsterdam and back. They sell you the premium package online with fancy pictures of their new trains but the train that shows up is an old 1970 rail car with both toilets locked (broken for weeks I found out), broken doors, broken heater, missing ladders, broken window blinds etc. At this time if they can't even clean the toilets then it is not worth the steep price. H…

> Additionally from Amsterdam to Zürich 3 people got robbed while still in the Netherlands. This train is reservation only, they could at least lock the doors or something to prevent criminals from boarding. compartments can be locked, locking up the entire train and having the entire boarding process be bottlenecked on ticket inspectors seems highly impractical

There is already a bottleneck on these trains because the staff need to bring you to the compartments. Unlike regular trains there is a lot of staff (one per carriage).

Boarding in Zürich you can only enter in one door for the sleeper.

Also most stations are exit only and no new passengers can board.

Re: Austria rail operator OeBB unveils new night trains

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Post by sschueller »

KennyBlanken wrote: post #25
sschueller wrote: post #14

Don't take the ÖBB night-train from Zürich HB to Amsterdam and back. They sell you the premium package online with fancy pictures of their new trains but the train that shows up is an old 1970 rail car with both toilets locked (broken for weeks I found out), broken doors, broken heater, missing ladders, broken window blinds etc. At this time if they can't even clean the toilets then it is not worth the steep price. H…

One-off anecdotes are not evidence of systemic problems. What evidence do you have that any of what you described is common? Multiple commenters describe taking the OBB night train and speak highly of it. Edit: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37810476 Apparently it's location specific. > However, the different forms of downgrades and downgrades affect the destinations differently. Most of the downgrades from sle…

Problems with the Zürich Amsterdam line are constantly in the news[1]. I was not the only person on this train that had issues. I voiced mine at a later time directly with ÖBB unlike others that complained to the staff which were not at fault here. It is a systematic problem and the nigthjet in this state should not be offered if they can't keep it up to a minimum standard.

I don't have a problem with a 1970's train but then don't sell me a trip in a modern rail car with a 360 walkthough on the website when it isn't what I am getting. Working toilets (With toilet paper) is the only thing I would expect on a 9 hours trip, everything else I don't care about.

[1] https://www.travelnews.ch/on-the-move/24452-viel-aerger-mit-...

[2] https://www.blick.ch/schweiz/zuerich/aargauer-erlebt-nachtzu...

Re: Austria rail operator OeBB unveils new night trains

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Post by sschueller »

konschubert wrote: post #31
sschueller wrote: post #14

Don't take the ÖBB night-train from Zürich HB to Amsterdam and back. They sell you the premium package online with fancy pictures of their new trains but the train that shows up is an old 1970 rail car with both toilets locked (broken for weeks I found out), broken doors, broken heater, missing ladders, broken window blinds etc. At this time if they can't even clean the toilets then it is not worth the steep price. H…

If a hotel chain uses pictures from one hotel to advertise another, that's false advertisement. OBB should be held to the same standard.

Yes and I did bring this up when I wrote a complaint to the ÖBB after my trip. They offered a certificate for another trip but I would have rather just had some cash back.

Re: Austria rail operator OeBB unveils new night trains

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Post by ant6n »

somewhereoutth wrote: post #7
kalleboo wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My experience riding trains in Europe as a European is that everything is great when you're traveling domestically (bar the usual complaints from any commuter that exist but differ between any mode of transport) but once you take a train that crosses a border things really fall apart. Especially when it's not some commuter line. That's one thing I wish the EU really did better - do more to integrate and de-federate t…

There is the TEN-T plan, which attempts to integrate all transport modalities across the EU https://transport.ec.europa.eu/transport-themes/infrastructu...

That’s an infrastructure plan, not operations.
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