Austria rail operator OeBB unveils new night trains
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Austria rail operator OeBB unveils new night trains
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Re: Austria rail operator OeBB unveils new night trains
#2I've been taking the ÖBB night trains (Nightjet) a lot the last couple of years. It's a fantastic way to travel, I really hope the network will expand.
My only recommendation is not to take one if you absolutely must arrive at the stated time in the morning. They are commonly delayed by multiple hours. So far this has not been a problem for me because the stated arrival times are really early morning. But worth being aware of.
Re: Austria rail operator OeBB unveils new night trains
#3The article gives very little detail about how the train is set up.
There are some interesting ideas about how to preserve individual privacy within the same form factor. Those are probably better explained here:
Re: Austria rail operator OeBB unveils new night trains
#4I've been taking the ÖBB night trains (Nightjet) a lot the last couple of years. It's a fantastic way to travel, I really hope the network will expand. My only recommendation is not to take one if you absolutely must arrive at the stated time in the morning. They are commonly delayed by multiple hours. So far this has not been a problem for me because the stated arrival times are really early morning. But worth being…
My experience was the same traveling Europe by rail. It's such a lovely idea, I just wish they were more financially competitive.
Most trains did arrive a few hours late in the end. I remember on one train from Prague to Cologne, the train had to sit outside a station for multiple hours while two passengers argued outside(?) and the train staff waited for police at ~midnight.
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#5I'm following this awesome new train company, sleepers from east to west Europe. Haven't tried it yet but a trip is in the planning stages. It's been years since I took a sleeper. They also support Interail, which many of us probably enjoyed in our youth.
https://www.europeansleeper.eu
There is also a startup in the works:
Re: Austria rail operator OeBB unveils new night trains
#6I've been taking the ÖBB night trains (Nightjet) a lot the last couple of years. It's a fantastic way to travel, I really hope the network will expand. My only recommendation is not to take one if you absolutely must arrive at the stated time in the morning. They are commonly delayed by multiple hours. So far this has not been a problem for me because the stated arrival times are really early morning. But worth being…
My experience was the same traveling Europe by rail. It's such a lovely idea, I just wish they were more financially competitive. Most trains did arrive a few hours late in the end. I remember on one train from Prague to Cologne, the train had to sit outside a station for multiple hours while two passengers argued outside(?) and the train staff waited for police at ~midnight.
My experience riding trains in Europe as a European is that everything is great when you're traveling domestically (bar the usual complaints from any commuter that exist but differ between any mode of transport) but once you take a train that crosses a border things really fall apart. Especially when it's not some commuter line.
That's one thing I wish the EU really did better - do more to integrate and de-federate the rail systems. There should be no major difference riding the rails in any state. Of course, this is a lofty goal since even within countries usually commuter transport is run by local companies and not even nationally interoperable.
Re: Austria rail operator OeBB unveils new night trains
#7Earlier quoted context omitted.
My experience was the same traveling Europe by rail. It's such a lovely idea, I just wish they were more financially competitive. Most trains did arrive a few hours late in the end. I remember on one train from Prague to Cologne, the train had to sit outside a station for multiple hours while two passengers argued outside(?) and the train staff waited for police at ~midnight.
My experience riding trains in Europe as a European is that everything is great when you're traveling domestically (bar the usual complaints from any commuter that exist but differ between any mode of transport) but once you take a train that crosses a border things really fall apart. Especially when it's not some commuter line. That's one thing I wish the EU really did better - do more to integrate and de-federate t…
There is the TEN-T plan, which attempts to integrate all transport modalities across the EU https://transport.ec.europa.eu/transport-themes/infrastructu...
Re: Austria rail operator OeBB unveils new night trains
#8I'm following this awesome new train company, sleepers from east to west Europe. Haven't tried it yet but a trip is in the planning stages. It's been years since I took a sleeper. They also support Interail, which many of us probably enjoyed in our youth. https://www.europeansleeper.eu There is also a startup in the works: https://www.midnight-trains.com
Unrelated, but there is something special about design in Europe in general. I can find it in space, form, color, texture etc. There is something that makes European design so original and special.
Re: Austria rail operator OeBB unveils new night trains
#9I've been taking the ÖBB night trains (Nightjet) a lot the last couple of years. It's a fantastic way to travel, I really hope the network will expand. My only recommendation is not to take one if you absolutely must arrive at the stated time in the morning. They are commonly delayed by multiple hours. So far this has not been a problem for me because the stated arrival times are really early morning. But worth being…
My experience was the same traveling Europe by rail. It's such a lovely idea, I just wish they were more financially competitive. Most trains did arrive a few hours late in the end. I remember on one train from Prague to Cologne, the train had to sit outside a station for multiple hours while two passengers argued outside(?) and the train staff waited for police at ~midnight.
I was living in Germany in 1999 and rode night trains all over Europe. Even then I was amazed at how much better the air travel experience was in Europe compared to the U.S. (much more competitive) and it seemed the Europeans I knew were more inclined to fly than I was, since taking the train is a novelty to an American.
High-speed rail became dominant in the next decade and I think it was the cynical kind of of ‘competition’ that if there is an affordable option and an astronomically expensive option (HSR is often 2x or 3x the cost of flying) why should the provider offer the affordable one? (It’s like how a car dealer has no M or L cars but they have rows and rows of unsold XL, XXL, and XXXL SUVs)
Re: Austria rail operator OeBB unveils new night trains
#10I've been taking the ÖBB night trains (Nightjet) a lot the last couple of years. It's a fantastic way to travel, I really hope the network will expand. My only recommendation is not to take one if you absolutely must arrive at the stated time in the morning. They are commonly delayed by multiple hours. So far this has not been a problem for me because the stated arrival times are really early morning. But worth being…
My experience was the same traveling Europe by rail. It's such a lovely idea, I just wish they were more financially competitive. Most trains did arrive a few hours late in the end. I remember on one train from Prague to Cologne, the train had to sit outside a station for multiple hours while two passengers argued outside(?) and the train staff waited for police at ~midnight.
> I just wish they were more financially competitive.
I'm doing Paris Wien, and it was financially competitive to airplanes. 100€/person/way (ok cheapest seat rate, that's probably very uncomfortable... I'll see) I had 240€/person/2 way with airplanes. I just checked airplane prices again and that's still pretty much the same prices (a bit lower than train if you accept going to the FarAwayAirport, much higher if you take the Airport on a train/subway station)
It does take a lot more time because it's one train every 2 day and arrives a bit late to do train => home => workplace, so if you value being where you want to be when you want to be, you could probably say that airplanes is more competitive)