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Re: Vocal fry register

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Post by kibibu »

searealist wrote: post #9
kibibu wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Lots and lots of men speak almost exclusively in vocal fry, why is it so strongly associated with the Kardashians? Go listen to Jeremy Irons or Alan Rickman.

Male vocal fry is much less common and mostly exclusive to older generations. I wouldn't say either of your examples are vocal fry.

They drop into vocal fry at the end of most sentences though.

Re: Vocal fry register

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Post by IggleSniggle »

lucas_codes wrote: post #3

Is this how throat singing works? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qx8hrhBZJ98

Throat singing is just a band-pass filter. Having a rich set of frequencies can be helpful, but it's unnecessary for producing the overtones. Throat singing and "whistle singing" are effectively the same technique, except that in throat singing a wider collection of overtones is selected for (not necessarily wider band, but wider "matching partials" to the fundamental frequency)

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Post by nickaflip »

Worst part is once you learn what the Vocal Fry sounds like, you will start hear it literally everywhere. At best, it was interesting to recognize in the real world; at worst, it ruined some podcast hosts for me.

Re: Vocal fry register

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Post by KPGv2 »

The hatred of vocal fry is just class-oriented bigotry. It's a variation on anti-AAVE.

Previously, uptick speech filled the need for hatred. But then it turned out in studies that uptick was perceived as more intelligent by later Gen Y and all of Gen Z.

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Post by KPGv2 »

nickaflip wrote: post #13

Worst part is once you learn what the Vocal Fry sounds like, you will start hear it literally everywhere. At best, it was interesting to recognize in the real world; at worst, it ruined some podcast hosts for me.

Why does it bother you? Probably only because you've been taught that you're supposed to hate it. There's nothing inherently wrong about vocal fry: there are human languages where vocal fry is an essential component of native speech.

Re: Vocal fry register

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Post by KPGv2 »

kibibu wrote: post #5
jgalt212 wrote: post #2

e.g. Kardashian speak

Lots and lots of men speak almost exclusively in vocal fry, why is it so strongly associated with the Kardashians? Go listen to Jeremy Irons or Alan Rickman.

Honestly it's probably misogyny. There are some women we are supposed to hate who use it, so therefore it's bad to use it.

Re: Vocal fry register

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Post by dundarious »

nickaflip wrote: post #13

Worst part is once you learn what the Vocal Fry sounds like, you will start hear it literally everywhere. At best, it was interesting to recognize in the real world; at worst, it ruined some podcast hosts for me.

It can be used to great effect. This old song serves as a great example of vocal fry and also a great lesson on caring about it/getting aggravated by it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7hx4gdlfamo

Re: Vocal fry register

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Post by KPGv2 »

jgalt212 wrote: post #2

e.g. Kardashian speak

Vocal fry in the English language is historically associated with British men; it's curious to me that only when women adopted it did we start getting told to hate it.
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