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What do you know, they might not even be backdoored.
How do you tell US chips are not backdoored?
I'm saying the opposite.
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> cheaper better chips from China are just as good as cheaper better chips from the USA or Europe This may be a bit naive. How do you make sure that there are no intentional security issues / backdoors in Chips from a vendor? An interesting clip: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dfXxgb9N_qI .
Watching that clip, it is hilarious how Zuckerberg has pivoted over the years. In 2015, when Zuckerberg still had hope that Facebook would be allowed to operate in China, Zuckerberg asked Xi Jinping to name his baby.[0] Xi, probably taken aback by the sheer level of sycophancy, turned Zuckerberg down: "Too much responsibility." Now, Zuckerberg has gone entirely the opposite direction, denouncing the Chinese governmen…
On the bright side, at least he didn't get his arm twisted by the PRC in the long-run. A lot of tech companies (cough Apple, Tesla cough) are going to have to pay the piper soon. It's gonna get ugly before it gets better.
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Yeah but quantity has always been chinas strength. Where they have historically struggled is quality. If they can bring the quality up to acceptable levels then those numbers would be truly impressive. That’s what they are striving for
The US is also not great at quality (but good at innovating at speed at the expense of all else). Think Detroit and the waste of engineering talent at FAANGs.
Some companies can make quality items but I agree not universal or guaranteed. It’s just that historically fraud has been low but every year it gets worse and is more common.
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#105I suspect (but have no concrete evidence) that the real motivation behind this is that one or more companies feel threatened by risc-v, and hope that they by hindering collaboration, they can hobble their competitors on both sides of the ocean.
Marco Rubio, the senator pushing for this, received 250k from SoftBank in 2022.
I'm sorry, I'm not following. What does receiving money from SoftBank in particular imply?
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#108What happened to “May the best player win”? The US can throw a fit, but technology is inherently human and RISC-V is an open instruction format. Sooner or later China will get a powerful working chip. Not in the best interest of US to be an enemy of a billion person nation. Esp the nation that is the world’s factory. When China couldn’t supply PPP gear in Covid, 100s of thousands died. I’d rather wish our Senators wo…
What happened to the level playing field? China doesn't invest and open source anything, why should the US subsidize their technological advancement?
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How do you tell US chips are not backdoored?
I'm saying the opposite.
I know, but there's certainly bits of US CPUs that are not publicly discoverable - and past pressure from US government agencies for backdoors into systems
Ideally we should be building systems that are open enough to be able to tell these things, certainly if we want to trust a system then all the boot code, from the first instruction should be public - whether it's built in China or the US
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#110When I was working in China one of the most common readings of Liu Cixin's Three Body Problem was to take the Trisolarans as a stand-in for the US, and it doesn't seem too far off the mark with proposals like this. Trying to intefere with the development of open source hardware isn't just regulating products any more, that's just throwing a wrench into the scientific process.
This is the kind of perspective I don't hear from within the US. How far does the metaphor go? Is it just the meddling, superiority complex, and halting of technological advance? Or do other Trisolaran traits such as inability to lie also have an analogue? (I kind of doubt it goes too deep. Liu is great at concepts but the worldbuilding was not super in depth.)
> Is it just the meddling, superiority complex, and halting of technological advance?
For the most part it wasn't much more deep than that, although one more subtle point was that there were also a lot of comparisons between the chaotic and unstable climate of Trisolaris due to its multiple suns and the perceived political / cultural disorder and division in the US, in contrast to the stable climate of Earth.