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Re: Show HN: A job application tracker with company reviews, recruiter autoresponder

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Post by deprecative »

b112 wrote: post #105
ghaff wrote: post #100

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The problem is the person who selectively applies to a job or three doesn't need this. The target is the person who has dozens of applications in various stages of flight and is "casting a wide net" to put the strategy charitably.

I suppose so. I tend to apply to a few jobs a year, but mostly because it seems like a neat place to work, or a change of pace. One thing I have noticed, as I'm extremely skilled at this stage in my career, is that there are logically fewer jobs. Spray and pray is more, I think, a junior thing.

>Spray and pray is more, I think, a junior thing.

I'm at least intermediate, I've done senior work before, and this is still my strategy. Applying to one or two jobs isn't going to do anything. It takes at least a calendar year to find a job that wants me. I can't imagine applying for less than 5 positions a week, and usually it's at least triple that.

I'd love to hear a different strategy for a developer that doesn't specialize in any given language or technology. Most of the employment gates seem locked for me. Yet I hear of other people doing things just like that and making bank from it. Who knows, maybe people don't like me as much as I don't like them.

Re: Show HN: A job application tracker with company reviews, recruiter autoresponder

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Post by ghaff »

deprecative wrote: post #121
b112 wrote: post #105

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I suppose so. I tend to apply to a few jobs a year, but mostly because it seems like a neat place to work, or a change of pace. One thing I have noticed, as I'm extremely skilled at this stage in my career, is that there are logically fewer jobs. Spray and pray is more, I think, a junior thing.

>Spray and pray is more, I think, a junior thing. I'm at least intermediate, I've done senior work before, and this is still my strategy. Applying to one or two jobs isn't going to do anything. It takes at least a calendar year to find a job that wants me. I can't imagine applying for less than 5 positions a week, and usually it's at least triple that. I'd love to hear a different strategy for a developer that doesn'…

Although I've never been primarily a developer, it's always been about the people I know and have worked with in some manner. My network, if you would, although that term tends to get conflated with things like "networking events." Job-seeking hasn't been about about applying to posted jobs for me since I've been working professionally for decades.

Even in school I wasn't applying to multiple positions per day on average. Probably a more focused strategy is indicated than sending applications into the void.

Re: Show HN: A job application tracker with company reviews, recruiter autoresponder

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Post by wqtz »

smusamashah wrote: post #48

This looks great I am very suspicious about the company and interview reviews part. Glassdoor destroyed trust by giving incentive to employers destroying trust in reviews. I have a first hand experience about reviews I posted, and the fake reviews and then deletion of bad reviews of a company I worked for. It seems like any product offering public ratings will end up having fake ratings. What have you considered to m…

How do you verify the "integrity" of a system like this?

I was doing business studies research stuff when blockchain was all the rage. The accounting integrity was a major buzzword around that circle. Nobody came up with anything concrete or utilitarian.

The challenge is that you need to remove malicious reviews or spams. But at the same time that review system cannot be exploited.

Is there a systematic way to do this?

Throwing an idea here. What if there was a distributable append only database that obfuscated the content (reviews, company, user, company etc) with hash function only showed the action (new review, update review, delete review etc.)?

The database should be shared across multiple stakeholders as single source database is easily corruptible. For each actions to go through, these stakeholder databases need to be verify them. Tis verification process essentially links these databases to a single system. Then once the verification is done the review can be added.

To incentivize the storing and verification we need to offer an incentive of sort that is not money. As money corrupts everything and is the source of all evil it should be a form of token of gratitude that can be essentially transacted with other participants a form of pseudo currency. The value of the pseudo currency derives from everyone believing in the system.

In fact we can probably create an algorithm that automates the verification process using LLM algorithm and historic patterns. Those LLM algorithms can run on the stakeholder machines preferably on GPU.

Would a system like this work?

Re: Show HN: A job application tracker with company reviews, recruiter autoresponder

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Post by deprecative »

ghaff wrote: post #122
deprecative wrote: post #121

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>Spray and pray is more, I think, a junior thing. I'm at least intermediate, I've done senior work before, and this is still my strategy. Applying to one or two jobs isn't going to do anything. It takes at least a calendar year to find a job that wants me. I can't imagine applying for less than 5 positions a week, and usually it's at least triple that. I'd love to hear a different strategy for a developer that doesn'…

Although I've never been primarily a developer, it's always been about the people I know and have worked with in some manner. My network, if you would, although that term tends to get conflated with things like "networking events." Job-seeking hasn't been about about applying to posted jobs for me since I've been working professionally for decades. Even in school I wasn't applying to multiple positions per day on ave…

Fair, yeah. I don't have a professional network. I find the folks I work with to always be insufferable. Guess it'll be launching resumes into the void. Thanks for the perspective.

Re: Show HN: A job application tracker with company reviews, recruiter autoresponder

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Post by quickthrower2 »

Looks impressive! Would I use it? Probably not. I never have found I needed to track everything in a spreadsheet. Either they offer me a job or they don’t. All data is in gmail and searchable. Google calendar for interview times although most likely I will just remember. Most companies will reject (because each company value’s orthogonal things so no candidate can get then all) so why keep data?

But I al not a FAANGer or US based so ymmv and something like this may be attractive during recessions when you need to apply more and chase up harder.

Re: Show HN: A job application tracker with company reviews, recruiter autoresponder

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Post by Tactician_mark »

ghaff wrote: post #115
akvadrako wrote: post #88

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sure it's common and it really depends how picky you are. I have 20 YoE and applied to over 150 places last year, some in Western Europe and some remote jobs in the USA. In the end I only got one offer, which I turned down. But I did gain a greater understanding of the market.

That seems like an insane number for an experienced person--that's almost an application every two days--and a yield of less than 1% which presumably wasn't even a compelling offer.

Online job platforms like Monster, Indeed, Glassdoor, etc. have changed things significantly. If you can apply in one click, or just a simple form, it's trivial to send out 50 applications a day. Those easy-apply jobs will of course get hundreds of applicants, requiring an even wider net to stand a statistical chance.

My job search looked a bit like that. Luckily, I had just a few connections from grad school, which of course immediately led to interviews and offers while my hundreds of one-click applications lead to form rejections or have been ghosted. But without those connections, I'm not sure what choice I would have.

Re: Show HN: A job application tracker with company reviews, recruiter autoresponder

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Post by Volrath89 »

danwee wrote: post #84

Congrats for launching the product! > These days it is common to apply to dozens of positions (some users track over a hundred opportunities). Honest question: is it that common? I'm an average software engineer in Western Europe. When I was junior (around 2010-2015) I usually got a job after submitting ~3 job applications (mainly, because I was accepting anything at that time). Nowadays, since I have more experience…

10+ years experience here. I used to be like you until earlier this year when I was looking for a new job and thought it would be easy as it had always been.

Oh boy was I wrong. I tracked over 120 applications, had 20+ open processes with multiple interviews and in the end only got 1 offer (which I took).

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