You Don't Really Own the Digital Movies You Buy (2021) • Hacker News Board

Re: You Don't Really Own the Digital Movies You Buy (2021)

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Post by vidanay » Sat, Oct 07, 2023, 9:14 PM UTC

cortesoft wrote: post #16

LiquidPolymer wrote: post #10

I have great nostalgia for physical media beyond the current reemergence of vinyl records. Compact cassette, minidisc, CD, reel to reel, and digital audio tape are in my hifi system. I also love blu-ray and DVD. I just bought “Mank” on Blu-ray despite being easily seen on Netflix. Obviously I’m an outlier. Yet my 26 year-old daughter has become enamored with cassette tapes and CD’s when the used car she bought had a…

I do not miss having to store physical media. It took up so much space, and would get damaged.

Or have your car broken into and your entire collection of cassettes stolen.

Thankfully, that was right around the time CDs became popular, so I replaced them all with CD's

And then my car was broken into again and they were stolen too.

Re: You Don't Really Own the Digital Movies You Buy (2021)

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Post by karaterobot » Sat, Oct 07, 2023, 9:15 PM UTC

FirmwareBurner wrote: post #2

But I do own all these MKVs I bought 100% legit pinky swear, yarr-harr-harr.

There is still not been a distribution platform better than bittorrent. Yeah, it's annoying dealing with trackers, but not half as annoying as subscribing to ten different services access everything I want.

Re: You Don't Really Own the Digital Movies You Buy (2021)

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Post by flotzam » Sat, Oct 07, 2023, 9:16 PM UTC

2OEH8eoCRo0 wrote: post #18

flotzam wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why not use MakeMKV to remux it for them, from the fragile and DRM-infested Blu-ray into a sane .mkv on a USB drive that they can plug into the back of their TV: https://nitter.net/turtlekiosk/status/1709057325170905363

Just what I've always wanted, a USB drive of a pirated movie! I agree with your premise but it feels like something is lost here.

No you give them the Blu-ray and the USB drive

Gifting only the USB drive makes more sense for a nice movie collection like in the linked Twitter thread

Re: You Don't Really Own the Digital Movies You Buy (2021)

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Post by dtx1 » Sat, Oct 07, 2023, 9:16 PM UTC

I do however really own the movies I pirate as long as i don't run out of disc space

Re: You Don't Really Own the Digital Movies You Buy (2021)

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Post by mindcrash » Sat, Oct 07, 2023, 9:21 PM UTC

You technically don't really own the movies you buy on disc either, which makes this headline a bit... weird.

You own the media (the physical DVD or BluRay disc), not the movie.

More or less the same thing applies to books and video games too.

* With some exceptions ofcourse, e.g. when the content is in the public domain or has a copyleft license.

Re: You Don't Really Own the Digital Movies You Buy (2021)

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Post by haunter » Sat, Oct 07, 2023, 9:24 PM UTC

I still buy DVDs but mostly old stuff. Turns out a lot of releases are flat out not available anywhere else. Especially things like documentaries, foreign language, and sports (season higlights, competition recaps etc)

Re: You Don't Really Own the Digital Movies You Buy (2021)

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Post by DueDilligence » Sat, Oct 07, 2023, 9:27 PM UTC

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Re: You Don't Really Own the Digital Movies You Buy (2021)

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Post by acidburnNSA » Sat, Oct 07, 2023, 9:28 PM UTC

Buying bluray and dvd movies and CDs on ebay or craigslist (or better yet: finding in little free libraries while walking) and ripping them to disk and then serving locally (via jellyfin and mopidy) and selectively copying onto phone/table SD cards (e.g. before traveling) has gone pretty well for me. It's pretty cheap, has the convenience of digital media, feels like I have full control, and is legal. I often bring HDMI cords with me on vacation to hook up laptop to TV for showing.

Really been loving whipper for CD encoding https://github.com/whipper-team/whipper

Re: You Don't Really Own the Digital Movies You Buy (2021)

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Post by nightski » Sat, Oct 07, 2023, 9:30 PM UTC

Many physical copies come with a digital copy included. It makes little sense to just buy a digital copy imho. Not only that, the digital copy is often with movies anywhere and you can watch on any video streaming service (amazon, vudu, etc...)

Re: You Don't Really Own the Digital Movies You Buy (2021)

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Post by ShadowBanThis01 » Sat, Oct 07, 2023, 9:31 PM UTC

Ylpertnodi wrote: post #17

LiquidPolymer wrote: post #10

I have great nostalgia for physical media beyond the current reemergence of vinyl records. Compact cassette, minidisc, CD, reel to reel, and digital audio tape are in my hifi system. I also love blu-ray and DVD. I just bought “Mank” on Blu-ray despite being easily seen on Netflix. Obviously I’m an outlier. Yet my 26 year-old daughter has become enamored with cassette tapes and CD’s when the used car she bought had a…

It would be very interesting to hear a 26year old's comparison of compression between mp3-4, cassette (i miss my dolby expander), radio, and vinyl vs cd and also streamed audio (film or music). I once endured a shitty mp3 of AC/DC (bon version) and it made me gag. Played a vinyl version to the dude...they had no idea of what dynamic range was.

If you pull out a good-quality pre-late-'90s recording on almost any medium, it will destroy the dynamically-compressed "remastered" version that is streamed today. I wonder if this is, in fact, what his daughter likes. The sonic quality and non-fatiguing nature of well-mastered music is seriously enough to make a person LIKE the music more and play it more.

It's depressing and disgraceful that everyone has incredible fidelity available, but the publishers have rendered it moot by destroying the music itself at the source. Rolling dynamic compression back was a nearly hopeless idea once the "loudness war" took off, but as time goes on it's even worse because young people will never have heard good-sounding music and don't even know how shitty it sounds today... unless they are accidentally exposed to it like this. And even then, they're not going to identify the issue and call for change.

The problem isn't data compression. An MP3 of a 45 RPM record from the '80s will sound better than the Apple Lossless copy of the "remastered" version from 2017.