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Re: Internet traffic in Israel surged 170% right after the Hamas attack

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Post by temp10723 »

MattGaiser wrote: post #6
barcode_feeder wrote: post #3

I'm a late adopter of HN, but was a bit surprised to see nothing about Israel/Hamas on the home page. Is that sort of political stuff forbidden, or is there just no interest in this community?

Forbidden per the guidelines. > Off-Topic: Most stories about politics, or crime, or sports, or celebrities, unless they're evidence of some interesting new phenomenon. Videos of pratfalls or disasters, or cute animal pictures. If they'd cover it on TV news, it's probably off-topic. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

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Re: Internet traffic in Israel surged 170% right after the Hamas attack

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Post by bobthepanda »

temp10723 wrote: post #28
barcode_feeder wrote: post #3

I'm a late adopter of HN, but was a bit surprised to see nothing about Israel/Hamas on the home page. Is that sort of political stuff forbidden, or is there just no interest in this community?

The Ukraine/Russia war was OK[1] to post, so it seems weird that Israel/Palestinian wouldn't be. [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30450336

A land invasion bordering what is now the EU hasn’t happened in over half a century.

And most of the posts are technical discussions about the implications of the war, like Russia trying to get an airplane to fly out of a wheat field; not inane “X has progressed 200 meters” or whatnot.

Re: Internet traffic in Israel surged 170% right after the Hamas attack

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Post by TheGigaChad »

temp10723 wrote: post #31
MattGaiser wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Forbidden per the guidelines. > Off-Topic: Most stories about politics, or crime, or sports, or celebrities, unless they're evidence of some interesting new phenomenon. Videos of pratfalls or disasters, or cute animal pictures. If they'd cover it on TV news, it's probably off-topic. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

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Re: Internet traffic in Israel surged 170% right after the Hamas attack

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Post by gumballindie »

vel0city wrote: post #30
gumballindie wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sounds good to me. But you need to have ownership documents for it and means for transport. I’ll trade anytime.

Why should I provide your means of transport? Did the person you bought your home from provide you transport as well? You're getting so much extra land! You figure out how to make it useful. Sure seems like you don't actually want it if you need me to subsidize you by billions of dollars to use it. Maybe it's not a great deal? Maybe there's a reason why the Israelis and Palestinians are fighting over that land instea…

I dont know in which country you live in but in some you cant sell land without an access path. And since i cant simply walk to it you’d have to ensure that there are other means to get there. Also that’s part of the deal - cant provide it you wont get my house in return.

Re: Internet traffic in Israel surged 170% right after the Hamas attack

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Post by [deleted] »

temp10723 wrote: post #29
bobthepanda wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html The guideline criteria say not to submit flamebait, to submit things with interesting, novel intellectual discussion, and generally nothing that is on tv news. I would imagine that the decades long Israeli/Palestinian conflict would violate all three.

> I would imagine that the decades long Israeli/Palestinian conflict would violate all three. So would the Russian/Ukrainian conflict, and yet[1] [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30450336

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Re: Internet traffic in Israel surged 170% right after the Hamas attack

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Post by temp10723 »

bobthepanda wrote: post #32
temp10723 wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The Ukraine/Russia war was OK[1] to post, so it seems weird that Israel/Palestinian wouldn't be. [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30450336

A land invasion bordering what is now the EU hasn’t happened in over half a century. And most of the posts are technical discussions about the implications of the war, like Russia trying to get an airplane to fly out of a wheat field; not inane “X has progressed 200 meters” or whatnot.

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Re: Internet traffic in Israel surged 170% right after the Hamas attack

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Post by vel0city »

gumballindie wrote: post #34
vel0city wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why should I provide your means of transport? Did the person you bought your home from provide you transport as well? You're getting so much extra land! You figure out how to make it useful. Sure seems like you don't actually want it if you need me to subsidize you by billions of dollars to use it. Maybe it's not a great deal? Maybe there's a reason why the Israelis and Palestinians are fighting over that land instea…

I dont know in which country you live in but in some you cant sell land without an access path. And since i cant simply walk to it you’d have to ensure that there are other means to get there. Also that’s part of the deal - cant provide it you wont get my house in return.

OK, I'll work with the FAA to make sure you can launch your rockets no problem. Then the path is just up! Problem solved.

Or I dunno, just jump really high. After all you're expecting the Palestinians or Israelis to get there on their own, it can't be that complicated right? Just colonize space, NBD. Then the path is just up! Problem solved.

Sure sounds like you're valuing your house billions and billions of dollars more than the land on Pluto. But why? There's so much space to colonize!

Maybe telling people to just go to space instead of fighting for a place on Earth to live isn't a great idea huh? Maybe some places are better than others to live?

Re: Internet traffic in Israel surged 170% right after the Hamas attack

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Post by wahnfrieden »

gumballindie wrote: post #22
TulliusCicero wrote: post #21

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Unfortunately, the status quo in Israel/Palestine is pretty garbage, and practically guaranteed to lead to conflict.

I know but i seriously wish there was a way to end all these boring primordial habits of ours and focus on stuff that matters, as a collective humanity.

graeber & wengrow showed historical societies that moved on from domination and hierarchy even well beyond dunbar numbers and after the discovery of agriculture (earlier than previously understood) but of course they still must defend against neighbors that seek to dominate them violently and institute new hierarchies and ownership structures. if you can envision society that lives with less violence and conflict over power, you must also accept that society must similarly defend itself in various ways from those who come not to visit but to take land, homes, resources and institute their own power structures over the ones already there living in that society you envision

Re: Internet traffic in Israel surged 170% right after the Hamas attack

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Post by l3mure »

2OEH8eoCRo0 wrote: post #24
barcode_feeder wrote: post #3

I'm a late adopter of HN, but was a bit surprised to see nothing about Israel/Hamas on the home page. Is that sort of political stuff forbidden, or is there just no interest in this community?

There is no interest in showing Israel being attacked but there is plenty of political discussion such as daily flamewars about ancient misdeeds of US three letter agencies (but almost never discussions when these agencies shut down a botnet or do something positive). These rules are either applied unfairly or the community is full of shills that make it appear that way.

> but never discussions when these agencies shut down a botnet

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35445867 (121 comments)

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37310772 (171 comments)

Re: Internet traffic in Israel surged 170% right after the Hamas attack

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Post by dopeboy »

There's another big factor at play: it's become increasingly easier to film yourself in combat and now encouraged by leadership for propaganda reasons.

I've been going to r/combatfootage everyday for the past ~3 years; it has exploded in popularity because like a lot of things in life, war is now recorded and disseminated wide. The ukraine war, specifically with drones outfitted with explosives, has shown this. GoPros seem almost standard for combat troops.

I have to imagine Israelis are learning about the conflict in realtime partly through the footage Hamas is releasing. The fact that footage is so unprecedented (fighters air gliding in, a Hamas reporter reporting from inside Israel) probably adds to the demand for this content.

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