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The glass at McCormick Place in Chicago is a lethal obstacle for birds

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Re: The glass at McCormick Place in Chicago is a lethal obstacle for birds

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For buildings that don't have permanent bird strike mitigation measures built in, I wonder if temporary whitewash applied by window cleaners would help.

It seems to me that that would be an effective temporary solution, but would have to be re-applied following rain. The bigger problem would be cost. The building in the article is McCormick place which was hit pretty hard during Covid and is likely still recovering (financially.) But no business is likely to spend the $$$ to mitigate the issue unless they are forced. The bigger problem is that this is not the only bu…

I didn't realize it was McCormick place when I posted. That building is probably particularly bad because it's right on the shore of Lake Michigan (a bird migration superhighway). Ironically/tragically, the situation might have been made worse in recent years by the reestablishment of native plants in the immediately surround area. I'm certainly no expert, but I wondered if temporary whitewash might be more amenable to the building owner than something more permanent. It is a massive building complex, but might even only be necessary to do the north facing side. The roof overhang might allow it to stick around for a few peak-migration weeks.

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I worked in a building that attempted to address this. The three-story glass lobby had its glass wall raked outwards by 30*. If you approached the glass from inside then your feet would contact it before your face, which really helped at night when outside was brighter than the interior. And birds on the outside would see a reflection of the ground rather than transparent glass. All seemed good. Until a convention of…

Do blind people not have feet? I’m confused by the geometry of this story.

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Mildly related anecdote: At one job, we had an expensive office built out as our company grew. The CEO and CTO came in from out of town to do the ribbon cutting so to speak and welcome us to our new office. I was there as a manager doing setup before we moved the main workforce into the new office, and the CTO came through the kitchen to talk to me, and smashed his face right into a glass wall. Broke his nose and had…

Wow this is real, I remember decades ago when my brother was young he ran into a glass door similarly. This is usually why new window decals take so long to be removed on construction sites - or taped with an X

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I worked in a building that attempted to address this. The three-story glass lobby had its glass wall raked outwards by 30*. If you approached the glass from inside then your feet would contact it before your face, which really helped at night when outside was brighter than the interior. And birds on the outside would see a reflection of the ground rather than transparent glass. All seemed good. Until a convention of…

Do blind people not have feet? I’m confused by the geometry of this story.

On the inside your feet would meet the wall first. On the outside your head would. They were outside.

Re: The glass at McCormick Place in Chicago is a lethal obstacle for birds

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I worked in a building that attempted to address this. The three-story glass lobby had its glass wall raked outwards by 30*. If you approached the glass from inside then your feet would contact it before your face, which really helped at night when outside was brighter than the interior. And birds on the outside would see a reflection of the ground rather than transparent glass. All seemed good. Until a convention of…

Do blind people not have feet? I’m confused by the geometry of this story.

They’re talking about the two groups approaching the raked wall from the inside versus the outside.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do blind people not have feet? I’m confused by the geometry of this story.

They’re talking about the two groups approaching the raked wall from the inside versus the outside.

Ah I missed that thanks!

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Toronto has had bird-friendly design guidelines since 2007. Surprised Chicago still hasn’t implemented a solution. https://www.toronto.ca/city-government/planning-development/...

Wow only a few cities have replicated this. Is the associated cost of designing bird friendly buildings cost prohibitive? If so, need regulation to enforce this at state/local levels.

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I worked in a building that attempted to address this. The three-story glass lobby had its glass wall raked outwards by 30*. If you approached the glass from inside then your feet would contact it before your face, which really helped at night when outside was brighter than the interior. And birds on the outside would see a reflection of the ground rather than transparent glass. All seemed good. Until a convention of…

The ground floor really doesn't need to be like the rest.

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I worked in a building that attempted to address this. The three-story glass lobby had its glass wall raked outwards by 30*. If you approached the glass from inside then your feet would contact it before your face, which really helped at night when outside was brighter than the interior. And birds on the outside would see a reflection of the ground rather than transparent glass. All seemed good. Until a convention of…

Do blind people not have feet? I’m confused by the geometry of this story.

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