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John Carmack and Rich Sutton partner to accelerate development of AGI

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Re: John Carmack and Rich Sutton partner to accelerate development of AGI

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How do people apply? They don't seem to have much of a web presence.

I think he sources from people he knows, so your best bet is an intro.

Thanks, I'm pretty interested, but don't have any direct connects.

Re: John Carmack and Rich Sutton partner to accelerate development of AGI

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I like Carmack but is it really necessary to have a post about everytime he mentions AI (which is every week for the past year)? So far, his track record in AI research is non-existent.

I agree with the sentiment and I've been watching his tweets on AI to see if Carmack has any relevant input on the field. But what I think is very interesting is that, from my totally lay-person perspective, the current challenge is scaling out the AI systems we have. We know what systems like GPT-3.5 and GPT-4 require to run and it is now an engineering challenge to scale up those systems (or drastically reduce thei…

What exactly are these first principles everyone keeps talking about? Kind of like how everyone keeps talking about updating Bayesian priors without ever actually using bayes rule.

Re: John Carmack and Rich Sutton partner to accelerate development of AGI

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I agree. The guruism on HN about this guy is crazy. Yeah, he made some really cool games 20-30 years ago, but do we really need a front page post every time he tweets? I'd prefer to hear about the company once they actually get something done.

It’s amusing that from one side of your mouth you’re complaining about the frequency which John appears on hackernews, but from the other side of your mouth you’re relegating his body of work to “some cool games 20-30 years ago”. Yes, as a younger man he focused his expertise into pioneering developments in the video game space. But what of his engineering contributions to the fields of performance auto-motives, rock…

On the other side you should be very wary of blind idolism, news title bait and fanboy clubs. Maybe give a thought as to why you jumped to his defense when he probably hasn't ever met you? Was all the things surrounding Doom all it took to convince you he's worth defending in all other areas he's not had expertise in?

Re: John Carmack and Rich Sutton partner to accelerate development of AGI

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After watching the video, I agree with that summarization of Rich's arguments. Building AI so humanity can go gently into that good night seemed very much the theme of that talk. What is your take on it?

Please watch it again then come back here...

Curious to hear your take. Sutton seems to present AI as worthy successors to humanity. What do you think he is saying?

Re: John Carmack and Rich Sutton partner to accelerate development of AGI

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Accelerate AGI So the hardware has finally become powerful enough to create the super mind.

Remember this: John Carmack is a hard working games developer. He is not done great philosopher. By chance, some Armageddon level shot has been put in his hands.

All I can say, please stop and think for a while Mr Carmack. You are playing with fire. Don’t kill us all, please.

Re: John Carmack and Rich Sutton partner to accelerate development of AGI

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I can’t go into specifics for obvious reasons, but I can tell you they’re a smart, capable crew, with lots of resources, and time is on their side. If I had to place bets on which lab will invent agi, they’d be near the top, precisely because they’re exploring ideas that others don’t seem to be focusing on. It’s the early stages, so it’ll take a few years to get to results. But they’re laser-focused. There are a bunc…

How do people apply? They don't seem to have much of a web presence.

It seems more of a place that finds you if you are doing interesting work

Re: John Carmack and Rich Sutton partner to accelerate development of AGI

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I like Carmack but is it really necessary to have a post about everytime he mentions AI (which is every week for the past year)? So far, his track record in AI research is non-existent.

If his name contributed to investment or plans for investment somewhere, then that is a track record. If John Carmack is partnering with someone and they share information about what they are partnering on, how, and where, that is extremely valuable information for anyone interested in the space. You don’t need to have shipped something yet in order to make waves that are worth paying attention to.

It’s John Carmack.

Re: John Carmack and Rich Sutton partner to accelerate development of AGI

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I like Carmack but is it really necessary to have a post about everytime he mentions AI (which is every week for the past year)? So far, his track record in AI research is non-existent.

> So far, his track record in AI research is non-existent.

I think he just bet on the wrong horse (RL instead of LLMs), at least in the short term.

Re: John Carmack and Rich Sutton partner to accelerate development of AGI

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I agree. The guruism on HN about this guy is crazy. Yeah, he made some really cool games 20-30 years ago, but do we really need a front page post every time he tweets? I'd prefer to hear about the company once they actually get something done.

It’s amusing that from one side of your mouth you’re complaining about the frequency which John appears on hackernews, but from the other side of your mouth you’re relegating his body of work to “some cool games 20-30 years ago”. Yes, as a younger man he focused his expertise into pioneering developments in the video game space. But what of his engineering contributions to the fields of performance auto-motives, rock…

Everything you said, plus that the sheer mention of his name and his new partnership will cause waves and investment to follow. He rests on a mountain of contributions and just his name and interest are enough to get something moving. The wise eye pays attention to this news and takes it into account, especially if it has even a passing interest in the space.

Re: John Carmack and Rich Sutton partner to accelerate development of AGI

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It’s amusing that from one side of your mouth you’re complaining about the frequency which John appears on hackernews, but from the other side of your mouth you’re relegating his body of work to “some cool games 20-30 years ago”. Yes, as a younger man he focused his expertise into pioneering developments in the video game space. But what of his engineering contributions to the fields of performance auto-motives, rock…

He funds some ventures. His tech opinions of late have shifted largely to shudder clean and pushing terrible FP idioms with no evidence like “immutable first”. His relevance in tech is dried up as evidenced by the parroting of bullshit without taking a modicum of a second to actually think it through. I don’t particularly care what a dude that got rich making video games invests in. Edit: Listen guys, funding venture…

> funding ventures != personally contributing to tech

Yes it is. So is being an adviser or a board member with technical background and a name that attracts further investment. This is why people like this receive generous equity and are considered part of the company when they’re advising a startup.

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