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The AGI he'll write will make us unlimited Commander Keen sequels.
If we're lucky, the AGI will be the player and we'll be Commander Keen. If we're unlucky, we'll be the marine from Doom. God mode with 7 billion lives!
John Carmack and Rich Sutton partner to accelerate development of AGI
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#112I often wonder if the pursuit of AGI is going to require a greater focus on new hardware architecture. All the sci-fi seems think this. I have seen Intel chips from the 80s that implemented neuron like behavior on a chip. We are still waiting on a practical memristor.
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It would probably be the simplest solution to a naive super intelligent agi. Just take a look at how humanity dealt with dangerous animals. They are mostly no longer around unless in a zoo.
Humans don't put ants in zoos because the ants overconsume their localized habitat though. A naive super intelligent agi has no reason to care if global warming makes the planet 150 degrees F on average, if it's self-interested it would surely be able to be "ok" on a planet under those conditions.
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If I had to place bets on which lab will invent agi I'd bet against "invent AGI" being a coherent or agreed upon thing, and I'd also bet against the "wake-up" scenario of a system saying "I'm AGI" Which lab invented deep learning? Certainly U Toronto had the breakthrough that made a 30+ year old field exciting, but there was a lot of work in Montreal, NYU, Google, DeepMind, OpenAI, and many other places
Didn't Schmidhuber's lab predate all of those in their inventions except ReLU (which I've heard is now out of favor as compute outpaces memory bandwidth and other activation functions have better properties).
Re: John Carmack and Rich Sutton partner to accelerate development of AGI
#115I like Carmack but is it really necessary to have a post about everytime he mentions AI (which is every week for the past year)? So far, his track record in AI research is non-existent.
I agree with the sentiment and I've been watching his tweets on AI to see if Carmack has any relevant input on the field. But what I think is very interesting is that, from my totally lay-person perspective, the current challenge is scaling out the AI systems we have. We know what systems like GPT-3.5 and GPT-4 require to run and it is now an engineering challenge to scale up those systems (or drastically reduce thei…
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No. The parent comment said "AI Research". If you want "AGI" so badly, you certainly need to have an "AI research" background and a track record. Can't achieve your "AGI" without that. Given that Carmack has a close to zero track record in this research, it makes total sense for him to partner with someone that does.
> Can't achieve your "AGI" without that. Can I ask, what makes you so confident on that? For all I know (which is admittably not much), current AI may be going to a direction completely orthogonal to achieving AGI.
Re: John Carmack and Rich Sutton partner to accelerate development of AGI
#117I like Carmack but is it really necessary to have a post about everytime he mentions AI (which is every week for the past year)? So far, his track record in AI research is non-existent.
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#118> partnership to bring greater focus and urgency to the creation of artificial general intelligence (AGI) Why is this urgent?
Without taking a particular position on how the probabilities shake out, I suggest critically reading “What We Owe the Future” by William MacAskill and:or other long-term writings that use statistical thinking over a wide range of future scenarios.
Too busy coding? Reading about something for _your_ career? In service of _your_ family? Trying to get ahead? Yeah, I get it. But tell me: isn't thinking long-term worth something akin to a few hours a month?
You don't need to be doom-and-gloom about it. Sure, get stuff done. Be in the moment. All good.
Wouldn't it be nice to have some confidence that we're setting up future generations to have the possibility to at least have what we do, if not better?
P.S. FWIW, the morality of valuing future generations is _not_ properly addressed by most moral philosophies.
Re: John Carmack and Rich Sutton partner to accelerate development of AGI
#119I like Carmack but is it really necessary to have a post about everytime he mentions AI (which is every week for the past year)? So far, his track record in AI research is non-existent.
I agree. The guruism on HN about this guy is crazy. Yeah, he made some really cool games 20-30 years ago, but do we really need a front page post every time he tweets? I'd prefer to hear about the company once they actually get something done.
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Richard Sutton has done fascinating RL research in the past. Lately, though, he has been advocating for ending humanity, which is a bit more chilling[1]: > Rather quickly, [AI] would displace us from existence. […] It behooves us to give them every advantage, and to bow out when we can no longer contribute… [1]: https://youtu.be/NgHFMolXs3U?si=5sriRVFKw61K5yes&t=399
That is not, what he is advocating, at the timestamp you referred to.
What is your take on it?