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Re: John Carmack and Rich Sutton partner to accelerate development of AGI

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Post by spockz »

garblegarble wrote: post #32
JKCalhoun wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ethics/privacy aside ... I wondered the other day what the result would be if you strapped a microphone on a baby and every utterance that both the baby and mic heard was fed through speech-to-text and went toward training the baby's personal LLM . By the time the child had grown to an adult I wonder what kind of results their LLM would produce and the degree to which it might compare to what the child (now grown) wo…

>I wondered the other day what the result would be if you strapped a microphone on a baby and every utterance that both the baby and mic heard was fed through speech-to-text and went toward training the baby's personal LLM. I read about a paper[1] a while back, it was a rather unpleasant animal study in cats. Using two kittens, one was free to look around, but the other they immobilised in some way, and made it see w…

I suppose a large part of learning is not just seeing things happen but also deciding to do something, executing on it, and then feeling the result. So not surprising.

Re: John Carmack and Rich Sutton partner to accelerate development of AGI

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Post by espadrine »

sillysaurusx wrote: post #17

John is nice to work with. Very numbers-focused. If you have a flaw in your logic, he’ll call you on it. And he’s looking for vice-versa —- nothing seems to make him happier than when you point out a flaw that he hadn’t considered. I don’t know Rich, but John has said they work well together, and it’s exciting to see them collaborate. There are some unique ideas at Keen worth pursuing that I haven’t seen elsewhere. L…

Richard Sutton has done fascinating RL research in the past.

Lately, though, he has been advocating for ending humanity, which is a bit more chilling[1]:

> Rather quickly, [AI] would displace us from existence. […] It behooves us to give them every advantage, and to bow out when we can no longer contribute…

[1]: https://youtu.be/NgHFMolXs3U?si=5sriRVFKw61K5yes&t=399

Re: John Carmack and Rich Sutton partner to accelerate development of AGI

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Post by lib-dev »

tmaly wrote: post #70

I often wonder if the pursuit of AGI is going to require a greater focus on new hardware architecture. All the sci-fi seems think this. I have seen Intel chips from the 80s that implemented neuron like behavior on a chip. We are still waiting on a practical memristor.

FPGAs seem like the future.

Re: John Carmack and Rich Sutton partner to accelerate development of AGI

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Post by zellyn »

JKCalhoun wrote: post #26
mark_l_watson wrote: post #13

Their focus is long running digital intelligences that interact with their environment over long periods of time. I enjoyed reading The Alberta Plan when it was released earlier this year https://arxiv.org/abs/2208.11173

Ethics/privacy aside ... I wondered the other day what the result would be if you strapped a microphone on a baby and every utterance that both the baby and mic heard was fed through speech-to-text and went toward training the baby's personal LLM . By the time the child had grown to an adult I wonder what kind of results their LLM would produce and the degree to which it might compare to what the child (now grown) wo…

Like this? https://www.fastcompany.com/1733627/mit-scientist-captures-9...

Re: John Carmack and Rich Sutton partner to accelerate development of AGI

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Post by stevenhuang »

Horffupolde wrote: post #79
dartharva wrote: post #61

A complete departure from the topic but I have the same symptomatic awkward pose when standing for a photo as Carmack has in the article :) But at the same time when you hold your hands back it can look even weirder! Where to put your hands in photos remains a mystery to me.

Do the power diamond.

There's the Tory power stance if want for options.

/s

Re: John Carmack and Rich Sutton partner to accelerate development of AGI

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Post by loveparade »

matusp wrote: post #43

I like Carmack but is it really necessary to have a post about everytime he mentions AI (which is every week for the past year)? So far, his track record in AI research is non-existent.

I agree. The guruism on HN about this guy is crazy. Yeah, he made some really cool games 20-30 years ago, but do we really need a front page post every time he tweets? I'd prefer to hear about the company once they actually get something done.

Re: John Carmack and Rich Sutton partner to accelerate development of AGI

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Post by belter »

espadrine wrote: post #82
sillysaurusx wrote: post #17

John is nice to work with. Very numbers-focused. If you have a flaw in your logic, he’ll call you on it. And he’s looking for vice-versa —- nothing seems to make him happier than when you point out a flaw that he hadn’t considered. I don’t know Rich, but John has said they work well together, and it’s exciting to see them collaborate. There are some unique ideas at Keen worth pursuing that I haven’t seen elsewhere. L…

Richard Sutton has done fascinating RL research in the past. Lately, though, he has been advocating for ending humanity, which is a bit more chilling[1]: > Rather quickly, [AI] would displace us from existence. […] It behooves us to give them every advantage, and to bow out when we can no longer contribute… [1]: https://youtu.be/NgHFMolXs3U?si=5sriRVFKw61K5yes&t=399

That is not, what he is advocating, at the timestamp you referred to.

Re: John Carmack and Rich Sutton partner to accelerate development of AGI

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Post by [deleted] »

volent wrote: post #28
JKCalhoun wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ethics/privacy aside ... I wondered the other day what the result would be if you strapped a microphone on a baby and every utterance that both the baby and mic heard was fed through speech-to-text and went toward training the baby's personal LLM . By the time the child had grown to an adult I wonder what kind of results their LLM would produce and the degree to which it might compare to what the child (now grown) wo…

I thought about this too. People say that LLM models are only saying the most common tokens that come after the previous token. And that this makes them incomparable to human intelligence. But Humans are basically long running LLMs that are retrained in real-time. We are the product of our environment.

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Re: John Carmack and Rich Sutton partner to accelerate development of AGI

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Post by charlie0 »

dartos wrote: post #68
sschueller wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A true AGI would determine the only solution to our crisis is the elimination of the human race...

Are you just basing that idea off of sci fi novels?

It would probably be the simplest solution to a naive super intelligent agi. Just take a look at how humanity dealt with dangerous animals. They are mostly no longer around unless in a zoo.
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