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John Carmack and Rich Sutton partner to accelerate development of AGI

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Re: John Carmack and Rich Sutton partner to accelerate development of AGI

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> partnership to bring greater focus and urgency to the creation of artificial general intelligence (AGI) Why is this urgent?

Perhaps there is some belief in this that an AGI can save us from our biggest problems? Energy Crisis, Environmental Pollution, Waging Wars.

But I agree with you ... it is not really urgent since we know answers for the most of the problems but do not like the solution.

Re: John Carmack and Rich Sutton partner to accelerate development of AGI

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Anyone know if they are focusing on LLMs or something else entirely?

Based on Carmacks Tweet: >I am explicitly not working with LLM — there are plenty of smart people doing so. Still, (waving hands vaguely) it does feel like the technology could be used to “argue with itself” and eventually produce a body of knowledge much more coherent than the raw training data.

Source: https://twitter.com/ID_AA_Carmack/status/1630632423351304203...

I would assume they are not

Re: John Carmack and Rich Sutton partner to accelerate development of AGI

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> partnership to bring greater focus and urgency to the creation of artificial general intelligence (AGI) Why is this urgent?

Perhaps there is some belief in this that an AGI can save us from our biggest problems? Energy Crisis, Environmental Pollution, Waging Wars. But I agree with you ... it is not really urgent since we know answers for the most of the problems but do not like the solution.

A “solution” that isn’t viable nor palatable isn’t a true solution; it is often merely a hope that people are not people.

Re: John Carmack and Rich Sutton partner to accelerate development of AGI

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John is nice to work with. Very numbers-focused. If you have a flaw in your logic, he’ll call you on it. And he’s looking for vice-versa —- nothing seems to make him happier than when you point out a flaw that he hadn’t considered.

I don’t know Rich, but John has said they work well together, and it’s exciting to see them collaborate. There are some unique ideas at Keen worth pursuing that I haven’t seen elsewhere. Looking forward to seeing more researchers join in the future.

Re: John Carmack and Rich Sutton partner to accelerate development of AGI

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Perhaps there is some belief in this that an AGI can save us from our biggest problems? Energy Crisis, Environmental Pollution, Waging Wars. But I agree with you ... it is not really urgent since we know answers for the most of the problems but do not like the solution.

A “solution” that isn’t viable nor palatable isn’t a true solution; it is often merely a hope that people are not people.

Than there will be never be a solution to some problems.

Re: John Carmack and Rich Sutton partner to accelerate development of AGI

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John is nice to work with. Very numbers-focused. If you have a flaw in your logic, he’ll call you on it. And he’s looking for vice-versa —- nothing seems to make him happier than when you point out a flaw that he hadn’t considered. I don’t know Rich, but John has said they work well together, and it’s exciting to see them collaborate. There are some unique ideas at Keen worth pursuing that I haven’t seen elsewhere. L…

Where do you read details about Keen's work and ideas?

Re: John Carmack and Rich Sutton partner to accelerate development of AGI

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> partnership to bring greater focus and urgency to the creation of artificial general intelligence (AGI) Why is this urgent?

They're not saying it's urgent; they want to bring urgency - convince people to move faster.

It seemed appropriate to ask AI about the meaning of the phrase:

The phrase "bring urgency to something" means to inject a sense of importance and immediate attention to a specific issue, project, or situation. The aim is to motivate people to prioritize the task at hand and to act more quickly than they might otherwise.

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