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Re: Show HN: A job application tracker with company reviews, recruiter autoresponder

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Post by Grimburger »

rewmie wrote: post #78
Grimburger wrote: post #68

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I see this argument a lot, yet it falls apart upon closer inspection, I'm talking a few dollars a month to put your best foot forward at jobs that suit you rather than spray at basically every single open position and take whatever you can get. Try to see this from the other side of the equation.

> I see this argument a lot, yet it falls apart upon closer inspection But does it, though? I don't think so. > I'm talking a few dollars a month to put your best foot forward (...) No, it really is not, and your portrayal really feels like a fraudulent way to frame the service. No job applicant becomes better suited for a position if they apply through service A or B. Moreover, the only thing that this sort of servi…

> your portrayal really feels like a fraudulent way to frame

This an an incredibly offensive thing to say, there's definitely a fraud here and it is not me, you should probably try harder next time with your sigint thing :) Good luck with it mate, please don't ever again.

Re: Show HN: A job application tracker with company reviews, recruiter autoresponder

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Post by bobcostas55 »

danwee wrote: post #84

Congrats for launching the product! > These days it is common to apply to dozens of positions (some users track over a hundred opportunities). Honest question: is it that common? I'm an average software engineer in Western Europe. When I was junior (around 2010-2015) I usually got a job after submitting ~3 job applications (mainly, because I was accepting anything at that time). Nowadays, since I have more experience…

Without a second offer in hand, you're always going to be in a very bad negotiating position when it comes to salary. Avoiding the stress of multiple interviews is almost certainly costing you tens of thousands per year. Over your entire career we're talking about millions of euros.

Re: Show HN: A job application tracker with company reviews, recruiter autoresponder

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Post by cj »

t0mas88 wrote: post #51
smusamashah wrote: post #48

This looks great I am very suspicious about the company and interview reviews part. Glassdoor destroyed trust by giving incentive to employers destroying trust in reviews. I have a first hand experience about reviews I posted, and the fake reviews and then deletion of bad reviews of a company I worked for. It seems like any product offering public ratings will end up having fake ratings. What have you considered to m…

Same here. Glassdoor keeps saying everywhere that companies have no influence on the reviews. But they absolutely allow removal of bad reviews, even going as far as contacting our HR team offering it as a paid service.

At my 100% remote company, we got a negative review from someone saying the bathrooms were dirty in our office. (We've never had an office, but there's another company with a similar name as ours that does)

We eventually got it removed, but it took an extreme amount of effort to convince them to take it down.

I can't imagine how difficult it would be to take a review down that isn't as easy to prove illegitimate.

This was in 2020, so maybe things have devolved since then..

Re: Show HN: A job application tracker with company reviews, recruiter autoresponder

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Post by rglullis »

bobcostas55 wrote: post #92
danwee wrote: post #84

Congrats for launching the product! > These days it is common to apply to dozens of positions (some users track over a hundred opportunities). Honest question: is it that common? I'm an average software engineer in Western Europe. When I was junior (around 2010-2015) I usually got a job after submitting ~3 job applications (mainly, because I was accepting anything at that time). Nowadays, since I have more experience…

Without a second offer in hand, you're always going to be in a very bad negotiating position when it comes to salary. Avoiding the stress of multiple interviews is almost certainly costing you tens of thousands per year. Over your entire career we're talking about millions of euros.

By that logic, we should always be looking for another job, even when already working. It stops being a game of "having a second offer" and it becomes a "look for who wants to pay me more than what I am making at the moment".

Re: Show HN: A job application tracker with company reviews, recruiter autoresponder

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Post by pacerier »

iamcreasy wrote: post #74
romanhn wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thanks! Not at the moment, but you're the second user asking about it today so that definitely bumps it up on the priority list.

Inspired by your product I started logging my job search into a postgresql db. :)

how's that better than a spreadsheet?

Re: Show HN: A job application tracker with company reviews, recruiter autoresponder

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Post by pacerier »

romanhn wrote: post #13
erehweb wrote: post #12

Have you looked at Duotrope (duotrope.com)? That solves a similar problem - tracking acceptances / rejections for writers. The constraints are a little different in that an author may have many pieces, but usually each magazine will only look at one piece at a time, and they will often request that you not submit a piece to multiple magazines at once.

I have not, will check them out, thank you. One at-a-glance difference is that they charge individual writers, which probably makes sense. I'm fairly allergic to charging job seekers though.

why? job seekers are the ones making money from this. but you obviously must not charge until they have actually made money.. that keeps the incentives right.

Re: Show HN: A job application tracker with company reviews, recruiter autoresponder

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Post by arandr0x »

bee_rider wrote: post #36
Grimburger wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I honestly think you should aim to make jobseekers pay instead of the job offerers. The automation of job applications means that basically everyone tunes out when they hit 100+ CV's, go post a small wage globally remote job to test and you will see what I mean. A dollar here or there definitely means your clients will get actual people who are serious about wanting it rather than the current spray and pray system th…

As a currently not employed person, one interesting thing to note about me is that I have no income, which means not much money to pay for things.

I have thought about this because I've wanted such a platform as a candidate, and I think an interesting angle would be having the jobseeker's loved ones buy it for them as a gift. Many times, I've been sad that I wanted to "help someone " with their search but I did not myself have a role and didn't feel effective. Friends who are unemployed usually won't accept cash from you but they might accept a subscription to a job search service.

Re: Show HN: A job application tracker with company reviews, recruiter autoresponder

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Post by high_priest »

rglullis wrote: post #94
bobcostas55 wrote: post #92

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Without a second offer in hand, you're always going to be in a very bad negotiating position when it comes to salary. Avoiding the stress of multiple interviews is almost certainly costing you tens of thousands per year. Over your entire career we're talking about millions of euros.

By that logic, we should always be looking for another job, even when already working. It stops being a game of "having a second offer" and it becomes a "look for who wants to pay me more than what I am making at the moment".

Yes, you always should be available for work outside your current company. Staying in one bubble for long periods of time leads to brainwashing.

Re: Show HN: A job application tracker with company reviews, recruiter autoresponder

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Post by ghaff »

rglullis wrote: post #94
bobcostas55 wrote: post #92

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Without a second offer in hand, you're always going to be in a very bad negotiating position when it comes to salary. Avoiding the stress of multiple interviews is almost certainly costing you tens of thousands per year. Over your entire career we're talking about millions of euros.

By that logic, we should always be looking for another job, even when already working. It stops being a game of "having a second offer" and it becomes a "look for who wants to pay me more than what I am making at the moment".

Which probably describes how a lot of the people who hop from job to job every couple of years operate. That's never been me admittedly. And basically every job I've had since grad school has involved contacting someone I knew and ending up with an offer. I've done fine but arguably haven't maximized compensation though that really hasn't been my goal.

Obviously I'm not the target for something like this given that I've applied to three jobs in the past 25 years and none of those were through a regular application system.

Re: Show HN: A job application tracker with company reviews, recruiter autoresponder

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Post by ghaff »

b112 wrote: post #40
deprecative wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This platform will not change human behavior. Sorry to say.

Yes. I think the only way to prevent spewing/spamming of every employer with resumes, would be if there was a crazy high cost to apply to each job . If someone paid $10 per month for 1 application or 100 applications, or 1000, for many the 1000 is going to happen. If it was $10 per application, you wouldn't be "changing" human behaviour, you'd be leaning into it, by de-incentivizing 1000 applications with "virtual pa…

The problem is the person who selectively applies to a job or three doesn't need this. The target is the person who has dozens of applications in various stages of flight and is "casting a wide net" to put the strategy charitably.
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