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Clearview AI: secretive company that might end privacy as we know it (2020)

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Re: Clearview AI: secretive company that might end privacy as we know it (2020)

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Pretty sure that pretty much all of their business practices are GDPR violations. So we do have a choice - we could either end privacy, or have legislation that ends a potentially profitable startup.

The answer is pretty simple: Privacy matters more.

There are millions of ways for profit but you only have one privacy.

Re: Clearview AI: secretive company that might end privacy as we know it (2020)

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post #5

Pretty sure that pretty much all of their business practices are GDPR violations. So we do have a choice - we could either end privacy, or have legislation that ends a potentially profitable startup.

Logic clearly dictates that the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few.

Re: Clearview AI: secretive company that might end privacy as we know it (2020)

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Shot: > At my request, a number of police officers had run my photo through the Clearview app. They soon received phone calls from company representatives asking if they were talking to the media. Chaser: > Clearview tries to pre-empt concerns with an F.A.Q. document given to would-be clients that says its customer-support employees won’t look at the photos that the police upload.

"customer-support employees" - nice dodge.

Re: Clearview AI: secretive company that might end privacy as we know it (2020)

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>One reason that Clearview is catching on is that its service is unique. That’s because Facebook and other social media sites prohibit people from scraping users’ images — Clearview is violating the sites’ terms of service. “A lot of people are doing it,” Mr. Ton-That shrugged. “Facebook knows.” So I own the copyright to the image I uploaded to facebook I licensed it to Facebook they stole it from Facebook. Did they…

In Europe: no. Training ML systems doesn't require a license.

In the US: we don't know yet. The law is not clear, and there are lots of suits in progress.

Re: Clearview AI: secretive company that might end privacy as we know it (2020)

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post #5

Pretty sure that pretty much all of their business practices are GDPR violations. So we do have a choice - we could either end privacy, or have legislation that ends a potentially profitable startup.

"Won't someone think of the employees" is a common tactic companies use to avoid shutdowns, and that's against long standing laws and regulations. Seems to work often enough too.

Re: Clearview AI: secretive company that might end privacy as we know it (2020)

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post #23
post #5

Pretty sure that pretty much all of their business practices are GDPR violations. So we do have a choice - we could either end privacy, or have legislation that ends a potentially profitable startup.

Logic clearly dictates that the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few.

Indeed. But the many what?

From what I've seen in this world, the needs of the many-monied individuals outweigh the needs of the few-monied masses.

Re: Clearview AI: secretive company that might end privacy as we know it (2020)

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post #5

Pretty sure that pretty much all of their business practices are GDPR violations. So we do have a choice - we could either end privacy, or have legislation that ends a potentially profitable startup.

So find at least one EU citizen in their database and unleash the GDPR against them?
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