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Show HN: A job application tracker with company reviews, recruiter autoresponder
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Re: Show HN: A job application tracker with company reviews, recruiter autoresponder
#72This looks great I am very suspicious about the company and interview reviews part. Glassdoor destroyed trust by giving incentive to employers destroying trust in reviews. I have a first hand experience about reviews I posted, and the fake reviews and then deletion of bad reviews of a company I worked for. It seems like any product offering public ratings will end up having fake ratings. What have you considered to m…
Same here. Glassdoor keeps saying everywhere that companies have no influence on the reviews. But they absolutely allow removal of bad reviews, even going as far as contacting our HR team offering it as a paid service.
Whoever pays, has the power, so for Glassdoor that's obvious. Companies can basically "report" anything they don't like, and they do.
My employer keeps asking us to "leave honest reviews" to help with hiring efforts. In practice that means they want us to leave GOOD reviews to raise rating scores on websites such as Glassdoor.
Sorry HR, I'm not going to do your work for you.
Re: Show HN: A job application tracker with company reviews, recruiter autoresponder
#73If you ever scale up, you might find it difficult for recruiting for that stack, ironically > The main application uses React with Tailwind on the frontend, C# on the backend I'm curious what about your experience gave you that stack? I'm sure it works fine, but the "not JS backend" people are usually stuck in older frontend frameworks, and the JS everything world has Next.js and various things to power both the fron…
Have you ever heard of "making people learn tools"? Not every job has to be the cookie-cutter node/react stack... you can also train people to use your stack.
tell that to employers and what they tell recruiters about needing someone to “hit the ground running”
despite having the job open for 6 months
Re: Show HN: A job application tracker with company reviews, recruiter autoresponder
#74Looks cool - I'll try it out. Is it possible to export my data if I decide to leave the platform?
Thanks! Not at the moment, but you're the second user asking about it today so that definitely bumps it up on the priority list.
Inspired by your product I started logging my job search into a postgresql db. :)
Re: Show HN: A job application tracker with company reviews, recruiter autoresponder
#75Looks great and comes in perfectly in time for me. One concern: All my data incl. CV is stored plainly in the cloud, correct?
Thanks! I suppose the answer depends on what you mean by "plainly in the cloud" :) It is indeed stored in Amazon's RDS, which is a managed service. I approached this as a real product rather than a weekend project when it comes to security (application and infrastructure) and there is a lot in place protecting the data - Firebase's jwt auth, XSS and SQL injection protection, default passwordless logins, data encrypte…
Thank, that sounds great and fairly secure.
I love your tech stack btw - C# backend is Elite (my main stack)!
Re: Show HN: A job application tracker with company reviews, recruiter autoresponder
#76Earlier quoted context omitted.
What's funny is that these bad reviews actually do show up on the RSS feed, so you can read them even after they're removed.
Which proves the point that Glassdoor is lying :-)
Or they're technically telling the truth - the review hasn't been removed, it's just not visible on the website.
Re: Show HN: A job application tracker with company reviews, recruiter autoresponder
#77Earlier quoted context omitted.
> I honestly think you should aim to make jobseekers pay instead of the job offerers. If I was a job seeker, specially if I was out of a job, I would never ever spend a single cent on a job application service, particularly one that does not work as a job board. All job boards such as LinkedIn already support some job application tracker features, including through third-party services. If you have access to a text f…
> If I was a job seeker, specially if I was out of a job, I would never ever spend a single cent on a job application service Find this very hard to believe. You really wouldn't spend $1 to submit a job application to a position that is your bread and butter while unemployed? Even if it meant there wasn't hundreds of others spamming the same endpoint? Taking such an ideological high ground over a few cents rarely wor…
> Find this very hard to believe. You really wouldn't spend $1 to submit a job application to a position that is your bread and butter while unemployed?
No, it's a stupid concept, and one that turns posting fake job ads into a profitable scam.
> Even if it meant there wasn't hundreds of others spamming the same endpoint?
Take a minute to think about that nonsense. Do you really think a company will want to risk losing the ideal candidate to fill it's position just because some mastermind decided to charge for each application?
Specially when every single company out there already has no problem posting their own job ads without charging applicants.
> Taking such an ideological high ground over a few cents rarely works out well.
Nonsense. It's a stupid move that goes against the best interests of all parties involved. But don't take my word for it. Go ahead and invest your cash on yet another job tracking service and put a paywall on applicants. Best of luck.
Re: Show HN: A job application tracker with company reviews, recruiter autoresponder
#78Earlier quoted context omitted.
As a currently not employed person, one interesting thing to note about me is that I have no income, which means not much money to pay for things.
I see this argument a lot, yet it falls apart upon closer inspection, I'm talking a few dollars a month to put your best foot forward at jobs that suit you rather than spray at basically every single open position and take whatever you can get. Try to see this from the other side of the equation.
> I see this argument a lot, yet it falls apart upon closer inspection
But does it, though? I don't think so.
> I'm talking a few dollars a month to put your best foot forward (...)
No, it really is not, and your portrayal really feels like a fraudulent way to frame the service.
No job applicant becomes better suited for a position if they apply through service A or B. Moreover, the only thing that this sort of service enables is throwing your hat in the race, and it's up to the candidate to successfully pass all subsequent tears. This sort of service does absolutely nothing to help you with those stages of the process, which are the ones that matter.
> Try to see this from the other side of the equation.
This is one of the many mistakes you're making. For the job seeker, there is only one side: the job seeker's side. There a already N services out there that allows them to apply for a job. None of them charges them a cent. Some companies even go through the trouble of posting the same job ad in multiple services. Some companies even hire multiple recruiters to find them the job applicant they are looking for. A job applicant can already apply through N services for free. Why would a job applicant suddenly feel the need to pay for the N+1?
It's stupid to confuse "have money" with willingness to pay, and mentioning vacuous statements like "sides of the equation" changes nothing.
Re: Show HN: A job application tracker with company reviews, recruiter autoresponder
#79This looks great I am very suspicious about the company and interview reviews part. Glassdoor destroyed trust by giving incentive to employers destroying trust in reviews. I have a first hand experience about reviews I posted, and the fake reviews and then deletion of bad reviews of a company I worked for. It seems like any product offering public ratings will end up having fake ratings. What have you considered to m…
To be perfectly honest, I don't have a great answer here yet. While the US has the Consumer Review Fairness Act, Glassdoor lost an important court case that saw a US court force them to furnish reviewer info to a non-US entity ( https://www.shrm.org/resourcesandtools/hr-topics/talent-acqu... ). Terrible precedent, IMO. Some of the early thinking I've done is around the system being able to verify that a user did in f…
Another method is to aim for safe harbor. Consider where would folks share this information today, legally, and make your solution legally similar.
Re: Show HN: A job application tracker with company reviews, recruiter autoresponder
#80So I assume that in the end employers will somehow pay for this product. I encourage you to think long and hard about the alignment problem. If employers pay for this, when will the candidates experience suffer (and vice versa, the party that pays will always have priority though). How can you counteract this in the long-term?
I think I answered a very similar question here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37797516 . Believe me, I have been thinking hard about alignment, conflicts of interest, privacy implications, etc. Alienating the candidate side will basically nullify the core premise of the platform, so avoiding short-term thinking and bonehead decisions is top of mind.
Yeah, it’s just that I’ve never been able to trust anything where the employer was the one paying…
Even if I could trust it at the start, it eventually turned bad.