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The Russian State Social University Is Developing a Social Rating System "We"

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Re: The Russian State Social University Is Developing a Social Rating System "We"

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I suspect the article was written by AI:

>Of course, the platform represents an interesting experiment that can lead to new approaches to assessing the social status and standard of living of citizens. However, it is necessary to ensure transparency, data protection and a balance between individual rights and state interests

Re: The Russian State Social University Is Developing a Social Rating System "We"

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Д-503, a spacecraft engineer, rated 47-29. The first figure reflecting social status, and the second – social level, reflecting “merits” and “prospects”, respectively. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/We_(novel) (1921)

Peter Arbeitsloser, a machine therapist, rated 10. Levels were initially added as a “gimmick” by the programmers, and quickly came to dominate every aspect of life. His last name was assigned from his father’s job title at the time of conception. https://qualityland.de/ql1/

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Д-503, a spacecraft engineer, rated 47-29. The first figure reflecting social status, and the second – social level, reflecting “merits” and “prospects”, respectively. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/We_(novel) (1921)

Peter Arbeitsloser, a machine therapist, rated 10. Levels were initially added as a “gimmick” by the programmers, and quickly came to dominate every aspect of life. His last name was assigned from his father’s job title at the time of conception. https://qualityland.de/ql1/

^ For non german speakers, Arbeitsloser ~ jobless person, i.e., someone not employed or working.

Edit: The book is awesome though. Definitely recommended. Marc Uwe Kling also has a great series of works around a kanguru.

Re: The Russian State Social University Is Developing a Social Rating System "We"

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Horrendous, but the nice side effect... the more China, Russia, and other totalitarian states double down on these efforts, the easier it is to argue against them in the West.

There’s a chance something like this ends up happening in the West as well. Could be watered down in some way. It only takes a couple more columns in the database of a credit scoring system to start looking at other factors.

These systems being deployed in countries such as China and Russia gives the rest of the world a peek into how it works, and a chance to understand how to best resist totalitarian tendencies. Unfortunately it also gives an opportunity for other governments to learn what works and what doesn’t.

Re: The Russian State Social University Is Developing a Social Rating System "We"

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I suspect the article was written by AI: >Of course, the platform represents an interesting experiment that can lead to new approaches to assessing the social status and standard of living of citizens. However, it is necessary to ensure transparency, data protection and a balance between individual rights and state interests

These rumors are also circulating in Russia: https://habr-com.translate.goog/ru/news/765866/?_x_tr_sl=aut...

Here's what AI can do with this article: https://www.phind.com/search?cache=o2wo1bog0dfjwj49vwhhgqgv

However, I wouldn't be surprised if this development is true, given that Russia is currently a totalitarian state. It is one of three countries that kills North Koreans who flee their country (along with North Korea itself and China), kills Ukrainians and its own citizens. Russia enforces totalitarian laws against any spoken or written words that criticize the government.

Re: The Russian State Social University Is Developing a Social Rating System "We"

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"Finnerty, Edward Francis Finnerty, Ph.D., one-time EC-002."

"There's a collector's item - a double-o-two number!" said Lasher. "I've known several single-o men, but never a double-o. I guess you're the highest classification I ever had friendly words with. If the Pope set up shop in this country, he'd be only one notch up - in the R-numbers of course. He'd be an R-001. I heard somewhere that the number was being held for him, over the objections of Episcopal bishops who want R-001 themselves. Delicate business.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Player_Piano_(novel)

Re: The Russian State Social University Is Developing a Social Rating System "We"

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Horrendous, but the nice side effect... the more China, Russia, and other totalitarian states double down on these efforts, the easier it is to argue against them in the West.

Meanwhile GB is trying to make e2ee illegal (they stopped for now but were pretty close). Let's not pretend west can't implement social score

Re: The Russian State Social University Is Developing a Social Rating System "We"

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Horrendous, but the nice side effect... the more China, Russia, and other totalitarian states double down on these efforts, the easier it is to argue against them in the West.

Meanwhile GB is trying to make e2ee illegal (they stopped for now but were pretty close). Let's not pretend west can't implement social score

Let's not forget about EU's ChatControl. They even chose a dystopian name for it and were completely fine with that...

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Peter Arbeitsloser, a machine therapist, rated 10. Levels were initially added as a “gimmick” by the programmers, and quickly came to dominate every aspect of life. His last name was assigned from his father’s job title at the time of conception. https://qualityland.de/ql1/

^ For non german speakers, Arbeitsloser ~ jobless person, i.e., someone not employed or working. Edit: The book is awesome though. Definitely recommended. Marc Uwe Kling also has a great series of works around a kanguru.

To do it some justice: a talking, very opinionated, intellectual, anti-capitalist, and overall absolutely hilarious kangaroo, which of course is some form of alter ego of the author. There is an english edition of a selection of Kangaroo stories here: https://marcuwekling.reimkultur-shop.de/marc-uwe-kling-the-k..., also one of QualityLand here: https://www.orionbooks.co.uk/titles/marc-uwe-kling/qualityla...
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