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Microsoft might want to be making Windows 12 a subscription OS, suggests leak

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Re: Microsoft might want to be making Windows 12 a subscription OS, suggests leak

#191

Accepting that “charge a large amount of money up front for the OS” is a dead end business model I’d be okay with this if they stripped all the user hostile and adware crap back. They won’t.

Tiered subscriptions, with some kind of premium tier having only 1/2 the crapware and ads?

Re: Microsoft might want to be making Windows 12 a subscription OS, suggests leak

#193

Accepting that “charge a large amount of money up front for the OS” is a dead end business model I’d be okay with this if they stripped all the user hostile and adware crap back. They won’t.

Tiered subscriptions, with some kind of premium tier having only 1/2 the crapware and ads?

Do you actually think that's a sane option?

Re: Microsoft might want to be making Windows 12 a subscription OS, suggests leak

#194

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Windows is free when I buy a PC. If I need to pay additional money to keep the OS running then I may as well save some money in the first place and just use Linux.

I hear System76 has some decent machines that don't have to stomach the cost of a Windows license. I believe Dell also offers a variant of the Dell XPS that is cheaper for having Linux?

Framework laptops too: https://frame.work

The have the OS choice (Windows Home, Pro, or "No OS") with the price listed for each.

"No OS" is $0, the windows ones aren't.

Re: Microsoft might want to be making Windows 12 a subscription OS, suggests leak

#195

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I hear System76 has some decent machines that don't have to stomach the cost of a Windows license. I believe Dell also offers a variant of the Dell XPS that is cheaper for having Linux?

Framework laptops too: https://frame.work The have the OS choice (Windows Home, Pro, or "No OS") with the price listed for each. "No OS" is $0, the windows ones aren't.

My main complaint against them used to be the lack of GPU. But now, if I ever have a next laptop, it very well could be a Framework 16.

Re: Microsoft might want to be making Windows 12 a subscription OS, suggests leak

#196

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Framework laptops too: https://frame.work The have the OS choice (Windows Home, Pro, or "No OS") with the price listed for each. "No OS" is $0, the windows ones aren't.

My main complaint against them used to be the lack of GPU. But now, if I ever have a next laptop, it very well could be a Framework 16.

16 not 15?

Re: Microsoft might want to be making Windows 12 a subscription OS, suggests leak

#197
post #193

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Tiered subscriptions, with some kind of premium tier having only 1/2 the crapware and ads?

Do you actually think that's a sane option?

Who knows what MS considers sane though... ;)

Re: Microsoft might want to be making Windows 12 a subscription OS, suggests leak

#198

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My main complaint against them used to be the lack of GPU. But now, if I ever have a next laptop, it very well could be a Framework 16.

16 not 15?

oops

Re: Microsoft might want to be making Windows 12 a subscription OS, suggests leak

#199

Half-devil advocating here, but is this the end of the world? Right now, we have software that we expect that keeps being updated, but the company gets a one time payment. With a subscription, things get more stable financially and the company can adjust the budget accordingly. It also incentivized keeping Windows good and working so those subscriptions don't get cancelled.

> things get more stable financially and the company can adjust the budget accordingly.

Ah yes, Microsoft. The company known for being so cash poor and not making money from their OS.

Re: Microsoft might want to be making Windows 12 a subscription OS, suggests leak

#200

Vaguely similar to the notion of an “alive” business and a “dead” one, I look at any application or website with a community in the same light: the second that some suit-wearing MBA is allowed to alienate the power users, the contributors, the developers, or the equivalent, it’s downhill into inevitable doom from there. Sure, the bulk of the user pyramid might be retained — for a while — but the peak is where the act…

> Sure, the bulk of the user pyramid might be retained — for a while — but the peak is where the action was. Like the growing shoot at the end of a branch, that’s where new applications are written, new content is produced, and new markets are created. The rest just consumes, uses, and follows.

And the suit-wearing MBA will probably say "yup, that's fine, it's harvest time!"

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