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Re: Sqrt(x*x+y*y)+3*cos(sqrt(x*x+y*y))+5 from -20 to 20

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Post by robertbobmiller »

muyuu wrote: post #61
huhtenberg wrote: post #29

This looks... erm ... neat. A "sophomore OpenGL term project" kind of neat. Wolfram on the other hand does the graphs right [0], which hardly surprising given their 20 years of head start. On a more general note, this reminds me of old Microsoft's tactics. Google should really stick to the search, but instead they throw together something that mimics competitor's feature. Something that looks more featureful and whic…

What's so wrong about this representation? looks fine to me.

Looks completely fine me to!

Re: Sqrt(x*x+y*y)+3*cos(sqrt(x*x+y*y))+5 from -20 to 20

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Post by blrgeek »

Feels like a gimmick... Something MS used to do well - take the shiniest feature of a competitor & implement it. The graph plot is just the tip of the iceberg - W|A does much much more, and Google might drop this in a few months if they don't see traction.

I thought Page spoke to Jobs and got a lesson in 'focus' ?

If Google really comes up with a viable competitor to W|A, with all the datasets, math, etc., that's one thing. Just copying the shiniest toy feature is a little dull...

Re: Sqrt(x*x+y*y)+3*cos(sqrt(x*x+y*y))+5 from -20 to 20

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Post by Achshar »

zargon wrote: post #74
drivebyacct2 wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I can't tell if you're being sarcastic about it being super useful. If you are, it seems easier still to download Chrome to do a 3d render then it is to buy WA pro and download an apparently enormous plugin to do the same render

Ironically, I was using Chrome and got that error. Then I tried Firefox and it worked.

its because in chrome webgl is currently disabled by default. you can turn it on on about:flgs IIRC. or try any other release channel. It worked for me in canary.

Re: Sqrt(x*x+y*y)+3*cos(sqrt(x*x+y*y))+5 from -20 to 20

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Post by lemen »

troyastorino wrote: post #97
fferen wrote: post #95

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Wolfram Alpha also seems to bail out when a mathematical expression exceeds a certain complexity, which makes it fairly useless for the only thing I want to use it for - evaluating hairy integrals and other long expressions. Or worse, it just "interprets" it as a part of my original expression and calculates that, as if I just typed out the rest of it because I enjoy typing random symbols. It seems like such a waste…

If you just type in the expression as Mathematica code, doesn't Wolfram Alpha evaluate it just as Mathematica would?

No not always. I've tried several times, but W|A pipes the input first trough the natural language processor. http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=DateListPlot[++WeatherD...]

Re: Sqrt(x*x+y*y)+3*cos(sqrt(x*x+y*y))+5 from -20 to 20

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Post by mongol »

comex wrote: post #103
wcarss wrote: post #92

I didn't see anyone mention this specific fear, but a lot of people talked about this in the context of competition with Wolfram Alpha. What I fear is that google (on purpose or not) will outshine Wolfram's offering, push W|A out of the game, and then in 3-6 years decide it is not a feature worth keeping up. Just like code search, viable companies may fail due to Google toying with their entire industry, and then Goo…

Well, this graph viewer is fun, but it's only a tiny sliver of what Wolfram|Alpha can do; if Google wants to "toy with" the industry it will require some more serious toying!

Yes agreed. There is so much curated data, and so much experience from mathematics at Wolfram, improving their viewer would not be a big challenge.

Re: Sqrt(x*x+y*y)+3*cos(sqrt(x*x+y*y))+5 from -20 to 20

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Post by yaix »

why-el wrote: post #24
postfuturist wrote: post #2

This works great in Firefox 11. It doesn't work in Chrome 18 which has WebGL disabled (on Linux). EDIT: I really doesn't work because "NVIDIA cards with nouveau drivers in Linux are crash-prone." Firefox has no trouble, strangely.

Ubuntu 11.10 and Firefox 11. Works like a charm.

Same here. Chrome doesn't.

However, since it's on an eeePC netbook the animations way to slow to be useful.

Re: Sqrt(x*x+y*y)+3*cos(sqrt(x*x+y*y))+5 from -20 to 20

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Post by taliesinb »

wcarss wrote: post #92

I didn't see anyone mention this specific fear, but a lot of people talked about this in the context of competition with Wolfram Alpha. What I fear is that google (on purpose or not) will outshine Wolfram's offering, push W|A out of the game, and then in 3-6 years decide it is not a feature worth keeping up. Just like code search, viable companies may fail due to Google toying with their entire industry, and then Goo…

I don't think W|A is going to disappear (I work on W|A). We do a lot more than plot functions of one and two variables -- after all, Apple chose us to power much of Siri's factual question answering.

We're pioneering automatic analysis of new kinds of input, from images to long-form text to raw data (what I work on). We can out-innovate Google, even if they do a really nice job of copying our old ideas.

Of course, sometimes, like with Google Squared, they don't do such a nice job.

Re: Sqrt(x*x+y*y)+3*cos(sqrt(x*x+y*y))+5 from -20 to 20

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Post by drostie »

Thank you, Google, for making me uninstall some nVidia packages from Ubuntu that were apparently stopping WebGL from working. The tool you built is also kinda nifty, and I might even use it when trying to help people online with mathematics.

Nonetheless, my day-to-day search traffic is still being offloaded to DuckDuckGo and my day-to-day image traffic is still going to Blekko. It's not you, it's me.

Re: Sqrt(x*x+y*y)+3*cos(sqrt(x*x+y*y))+5 from -20 to 20

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Post by Maro »

taliesinb wrote: post #117
wcarss wrote: post #92

I didn't see anyone mention this specific fear, but a lot of people talked about this in the context of competition with Wolfram Alpha. What I fear is that google (on purpose or not) will outshine Wolfram's offering, push W|A out of the game, and then in 3-6 years decide it is not a feature worth keeping up. Just like code search, viable companies may fail due to Google toying with their entire industry, and then Goo…

I don't think W|A is going to disappear (I work on W|A). We do a lot more than plot functions of one and two variables -- after all, Apple chose us to power much of Siri's factual question answering. We're pioneering automatic analysis of new kinds of input, from images to long-form text to raw data (what I work on). We can out-innovate Google, even if they do a really nice job of copying our old ideas. Of course, so…

Plotting f(x,y) is your idea? Come on.
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