The ozone hole above Antarctica has grown to three times the size of Brazil

Post by welon » Fri, Oct 06, 2023, 9:26 PM UTC

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Yeah, there are a lot of crazies, but there are also a lot of vacation property owners, tennis players, golfers, etc. and saying, truthfully, that no one will be able to do anything outside again, even with sunscreen, nobody will come rent your properties in Florida to go to the beach again, and the solution doesn't cost anything, it should pass.

And yet those same people out right deny that climate change, and its accompanying sea level rise, is a myth. You'd think the wealthy property owners and governor of a state where it's most valuable economic sectors are on the coast and a mere 10 feet or less above sea level would behave more rationally about the preventable danger that has been predicted for decades, but alas. I guess they're banking on selling thei…

Post by ben_w » Fri, Oct 06, 2023, 9:32 PM UTC

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If you are over, say, 25, then you know that the last 10 years have been _exceptional_ years for our climate, and that the time for normal non-sensational warnings was 40 years ago or 50 years ago. Look at a graph of CO2 emissions and you realize that we are in a place where what was alarming in the 80's was the result of only _half_ of the CO2 pumped into the atmosphere since 1900 ( https://ourworldindata.org/co2-em…

> If you are over, say, 25, then you know that the last 10 years have been _exceptional_ years for our climate And if you know anything about statistics, its that ancedotes are not the plural of data and that humans have a severe recency bias. The facts about climate change are damning enough, i don't know why people feel the need to resort to poor logic and fallacies when describing climate change. The truth is actu…

Post by mcpackieh » Fri, Oct 06, 2023, 9:33 PM UTC

flashback2199 wrote: post #47

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Yet I see the “do your own research!” crowd now reference the ozone hole as another example when a cabal of evil scientists came up with a cash grab that the mainstream media terrified everyone with for no reason, and “now no one even talks about it!”.

Yeah, there are a lot of crazies, but there are also a lot of vacation property owners, tennis players, golfers, etc. and saying, truthfully, that no one will be able to do anything outside again, even with sunscreen, nobody will come rent your properties in Florida to go to the beach again, and the solution doesn't cost anything, it should pass.

Post by netsharc » Fri, Oct 06, 2023, 9:38 PM UTC

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Happens all the time. Media wants you to believe otherwise so the rich can get richer and have more control.

Which exactly part happens all the time? Each year setting temperature records? "Once in a lifetime" climate disasters? Wildfires getting worse and worse? On the wet bulb temperature front, it's literally unprecedented and quite impactful. Millions of people would be unable to survive where they currently live and would need to move.

Post by HPsquared » Fri, Oct 06, 2023, 9:46 PM UTC

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It's slowing down at least.

The rate of increase in emissions is slowing down. Which means emissions are still increasing.