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Re: Tell HN: Postman update removes all your stuff if you refuse to create account

#82

FYI some of our people internally use Jmeter. https://jmeter.apache.org/ It's not flashy so it probably wont get the standard "we are going to milk you for data" plan

The problem then is that you have to use jmeter, it's a great example of early 2000s java desktop app user experience.

Re: Tell HN: Postman update removes all your stuff if you refuse to create account

#83
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We’re building an open-source Postman alternative. 1.6m+ users, 100k+ monthly active users, 55k+ GitHub stars. Web app: https://hoppscotch.io GitHub: https://github.com/hoppscotch/hoppscotch

Disappointing that there isn't a standalone program like Postman. I don't want to install an extension in my browser to handle CORS.

Didn't Postman start as an extension?

Re: Tell HN: Postman update removes all your stuff if you refuse to create account

#87

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What's the issue with an extension?

I don't particularly enjoy a VC-fueled project having ability to intercept all my browser traffic to handle CORS.

Ah, I follow. I was confused because a small, open-source extension should be sufficient to handle sending test requests. Sounds like they're doing something much bigger than that.

POSTman started as an extension; hence my confusion. I was wondering if there was a technical issue I was unaware of.

Re: Tell HN: Postman update removes all your stuff if you refuse to create account

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Is that what happened? I DO have an account (begrudgingly made because it doesn't just let you do a JSON export of your collections, you have to send it to the cloud and then download it for some baffling reason) and last time I opened it all of my environment variable values were wiped.

I've been wanting to get off Postman for a while. It's so clunky these days, and they're shoving way too much shit in it that I don't care about.

Re: Tell HN: Postman update removes all your stuff if you refuse to create account

#89

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What's the issue with an extension?

I don't particularly enjoy a VC-fueled project having ability to intercept all my browser traffic to handle CORS.

Running standalone binaries by a VC-fueled project on your host is even worse.

I guess a separate quarantine browser profile is the best of both worlds?

Re: Tell HN: Postman update removes all your stuff if you refuse to create account

#90

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But you raised VC funding right? Insomnia was an alternative to Postman, raised VC funds, eventually needed to justify that, and suddenly accounts mattered more. They're currently on the same trajectory. Insomnia is open source but just like OP experienced, a single update can do damage and it takes time for the community to react. Is this the same company that raised? If so, are you exempt from that? Have you figure…

If it's just a "glorified curl UI" what's the problem? Just use curl, or build your own, if it's so trivial. You are kicking the tires awfully hard for a solution to a problem you claim is easy.

That’s actually what I do and did. I have a whole bunch of scripts that allow me to replicate a lot of what Postman did for me.

The problem with these VC companies is that they enter the market with a whole bunch of lies and I was convinced that building on my ad hoc scripts wasn’t very useful since there were multiple alternatives including open source ones.

It’s taken me a decade however to learn that if these projects are VC backed as opposed to having some sort of govt or heck, even a benevolent dictator, they will screw you.

And while I might have learnt this lesson, which so much of the knowledge ecosystem also being filled with VC backed individuals (including this very forum) a whole another generation of potential OS developers will learn the lesson also too late.

And that’s how Silicon Valley has built a massive eco system to suck money out of everything across the globe, especially open source, but not limited to it (taxis, restaurants, hoteling, everything…).

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