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Microsoft might want to be making Windows 12 a subscription OS, suggests leak

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Re: Microsoft might want to be making Windows 12 a subscription OS, suggests leak

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Post by Night_Thastus »

ChrisRR wrote: post #17

I'm not even sure why Windows 11 exists, I can't see any real difference over Windows 10 (once I move the start menu back to the left) Hell, I don't even know what's the difference between Windows 7 and 11

10 and 11 sure, but 7 and 11 have quite a few differences under the hood. WSL, the new terminal system, hardware scheduling for GPUs, direct storage, REBAR, etc.

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Post by numpad0 »

ChrisRR wrote: post #17

I'm not even sure why Windows 11 exists, I can't see any real difference over Windows 10 (once I move the start menu back to the left) Hell, I don't even know what's the difference between Windows 7 and 11

11 was meant to be Microsoft's "Windows 10X" for a Surface brand dual-screen folding product. The product folded before launch and they decided to merge Windows 10 stable to the 10X as an outcome of their infighting around the fold.

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Post by gigel82 »

God damn it. I really like the Windows ecosystem I grew up in. Feel so much at home on Windows; I dislike macOS profoundly, and can barely function in a Linux UI distro (feels like I'm working with one hand tied behind my back).

But there's no way I'm buying into more ads and bullshit from MS; if this comes to fruition I'll hold on to debloated Windows 10/11 for as long as I can then begrudgingly move over to the least disruptive distro of Linux I can find :(

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Post by alanfranz »

aNoob7000 wrote: post #13

I think they will offer two options, advertising or advanced features. The advertising option speaks for itself. The will put ads in different parts of the O/S. Kiss goodbye to any privacy you thought you had. The features option will make more O/S options like photo and video editing apps a subscription type model. Pay $10 a year and get the advanced features. Either way, I think this should help Apple and open sour…

Usd 10/year is entirely reasonable. But I fear an higher fee.

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Post by libraryatnight »

horsawlarway wrote: post #15
pjmlp wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The alternative is that everyone thinks they can code an alternative during a weekend.

Nah - the alternative is choosing software that is stable and open. Not some crazy "not made in house - gonna code it myself" crap... that seems like some weird personal thing. Approach software as a set of tools, with the expectation that you must learn and master its use, but then you will be functional and productive for a long time. That's what stand-alone installers or self-hosted alternatives are. They require…

I agree. Stallman said something like when you don't control the tools you use to do work you don't control your life. It's true.

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Post by karaterobot »

pjmlp wrote: post #6
Workaccount2 wrote: post #4

I've wondered why microsoft hasn't done this already. The $oftware boys already have a full explainer about why $aa$ is the best thing since open source, so why shouldn't Microsoft jump on board too? C'mon SaaS devs, tell me again about value add and how you love paying monthly for the software you use...

The alternative is that everyone thinks they can code an alternative during a weekend.

I'm not sure what you mean by this, especially in the context of something as monumental as Microsoft Windows. But just in general, how does a subscription model prevent naive competitors from trying to make an alternative?

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Post by oblio »

horsawlarway wrote: post #15
pjmlp wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The alternative is that everyone thinks they can code an alternative during a weekend.

Nah - the alternative is choosing software that is stable and open. Not some crazy "not made in house - gonna code it myself" crap... that seems like some weird personal thing. Approach software as a set of tools, with the expectation that you must learn and master its use, but then you will be functional and productive for a long time. That's what stand-alone installers or self-hosted alternatives are. They require…

> Approach software as a set of tools, with the expectation that you must learn and master its use, but then you will be functional and productive for a long time.

This does not scale to end users.

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