What is this trend of the headline, sub-headline and first sentence being totally identical? It feels like I've been violated somehow, like a mild brainwashing. One less reason to click on the article link.
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HP fails to derail claims that it bricks scanners on printers when ink runs low
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Re: HP fails to derail claims that it bricks scanners on printers when ink runs low
#152Even if you only print things once a month, a laser printer is far less wasteful in time, money, and bullshit than ink that's perpetually dry or consumed. Rather than an entry-level laser printer that cannot be economically repaired, a used mid-level enterprise printer is often the cheapest option long term and saves useful electronics from becoming e-waste. Office furniture rental/repo places and secondary markets l…
In the 1990s HP was a great brand. Nowadays it's a nightmare. My neighbor asked me to troubleshoot one. Obviously the whole printer cannot be used without WiFi and a connection to HP cloud nonsense. Only that the cloud and Windows driver could not agree whether the printer had been set up or not. And the neighbor could not remember their HP account. It took me 2 hours to figure out how to do a factory reset. 1990 a p…
I still remember moving from raw printing over LPT to USB+drivers, and feeling it was a step back. How naive I was...
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#154I know a lot of people say just get a laser, but I just want to shout out to my bottom of the range Canon Pixma inkjet I bought about 3 years ago.
It’s solid, works with third party inks, supports airprinting from my phone and has never caused me any trouble.
It’s the second barebones Pixma I’ve had. Previous one lasted about 7 years.
Re: HP fails to derail claims that it bricks scanners on printers when ink runs low
#155Even if you only print things once a month, a laser printer is far less wasteful in time, money, and bullshit than ink that's perpetually dry or consumed. Rather than an entry-level laser printer that cannot be economically repaired, a used mid-level enterprise printer is often the cheapest option long term and saves useful electronics from becoming e-waste. Office furniture rental/repo places and secondary markets l…
>Rather than an entry-level laser printer that cannot be economically repaired, a used mid-level enterprise printer is often the cheapest option long term and saves useful electronics from becoming e-waste. Office furniture rental/repo places and secondary markets like eBay have these.
My print volume is extremely low, my 70 euro Samsung has lasted me over a decade. I suspect i'll be dead before i see any savings on a mid level enterprise printer, assuming the thing lasts decades without the rubber inside it disintegrating. If i have to service it my grandchildren will have to reap those savings.
I decided to go completely printerless. So far i've gone about a year without printing anything. I don't think there is anything in my life that still requires a printer.
Re: HP fails to derail claims that it bricks scanners on printers when ink runs low
#156In my case, after one year and an half my HP printer auto-updated (without my consent) and bricked because I was using the ink from a different brand. This happened even if I didn’t subscribe to their shitty Hp instant ink offer. I’ve immediately returned it, bought a Brother printer and I will avoid any HP product for the rest of my life. I’m genuinely worried that companies will just perpetually try to get into dar…
How'd you get the return accepted after a year and a half? That's pretty impressive service. People should spend years in jail for coming up with ideas like these… +1 for sure on that. It'll never happen, though. We wouldn't want to pass laws to interfere with "innovation."
In the EU, basically everything comes with a minimum warranty of 2 years[1]. If your printer will no longer print within that time, the retailer is required to fix, replace, or refund it.
[1] https://europa.eu/youreurope/business/dealing-with-customers...
Re: HP fails to derail claims that it bricks scanners on printers when ink runs low
#157Even if you only print things once a month, a laser printer is far less wasteful in time, money, and bullshit than ink that's perpetually dry or consumed. Rather than an entry-level laser printer that cannot be economically repaired, a used mid-level enterprise printer is often the cheapest option long term and saves useful electronics from becoming e-waste. Office furniture rental/repo places and secondary markets l…
>Rather than an entry-level laser printer that cannot be economically repaired, a used mid-level enterprise printer is often the cheapest option long term and saves useful electronics from becoming e-waste. Office furniture rental/repo places and secondary markets like eBay have these. My print volume is extremely low, my 70 euro Samsung has lasted me over a decade. I suspect i'll be dead before i see any savings on…
You must be lucky.
Some places are still cursed with enough antiquated forms of red tape that it becomes impossible to do so...
Re: HP fails to derail claims that it bricks scanners on printers when ink runs low
#158Even if you only print things once a month, a laser printer is far less wasteful in time, money, and bullshit than ink that's perpetually dry or consumed. Rather than an entry-level laser printer that cannot be economically repaired, a used mid-level enterprise printer is often the cheapest option long term and saves useful electronics from becoming e-waste. Office furniture rental/repo places and secondary markets l…
It might very well be the better option but the printing execs want their subscription pricing dollars.
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I followed this advice and it's been great. I have a $350 laser Brother printer, my iPhone can find the printer without fiddling with drivers, it wakes up, print, goes back to sleep. Works fine even if I go months without printing. After my last 'free ink forever' HP inkjet that never worked, a working printer is a blessing.
Which brother do you have / recommend? I have been quiet happy with my OKI but the phone connection is the only letdown so far and I might change for a brother in the future.
Brother have started going down the cartridge DRM route now too, so they're no longer a good brand. :(
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31860131
There are ways around their particular DRM - for now - but who knows how long it'll be until they're as bad as HP and friends:
Re: HP fails to derail claims that it bricks scanners on printers when ink runs low
#160Because of this kind of thing I haven't actually replaced my printer, since it broke, and have been actively looking for ways to avoid doing so. - In the UK, Royal mail will now print the label for you, when you order a collection. DPD claims to do so when you drop off but the shops often turn out not to have a printer - Libraries print more cheaply than shops, neither are suitable for printing where confidentiality…
I bought an OKI colour laser printer. More an enterprise model and definitely overscaled for my use but the market of colour laser printers is rather narrow and Oki seemed the best value/price ratio. Quality is good and the thing can print also some absurd sizes and formags.
I'm also reasonably happy on quality, results, speed. Annoying is just that this model (MC532) is too rare to be in common printer libraries (notably for Linux), so for each setup I have to first visit the manufacturer site and download the drivers, and even then it's not smooth. Nonetheless got this to work for win 11, Manjaro, Ubuntu and chromebooks.