Hacker News Board Hacker News, browsed like a classic message board
Live data from Hacker News

The Moral Case for No Longer Engaging with Elon Musk’s X

bloomberg.com

Post reply on HN
Print view View original

51–60 of 62 posts

Re: The Moral Case for No Longer Engaging with Elon Musk’s X

#51

Post by grecy »

keernan wrote: post #30
grecy wrote: post #24

I am confused why people care so much, and spend so much time convicing others of their position about Twitter/X It's just a private company running a website. They come and go like myspace, tumblr and whatever else. One day nobody will use Facebook or Reddit. Why are people so caught up personally and emotionally about a single one going to crap? Use it if you like it, and stop using it if you don't. It seems extrem…

I'm confused by your confusion. Your statement means that if a private company was owned by the most horrific person in human history {take your pick}, you wouldn't care one bit and would continue doing business with him; and would go so far as to question why everyone was making such a big deal about {take your pick}. To be clear, my post isn't about Musk per se. I am simply pointing out that your attempt to claim m…

> you wouldn't care one bit and would continue doing business with him

No, I wouldn't care one bit and I would stop doing business with him.

Life is too short to get outraged about what a person or company or whatever is doing. Move on with your life, remove the crud and focus on the good bits.

Re: The Moral Case for No Longer Engaging with Elon Musk’s X

#52

Post by rednerrus »

dragontamer wrote: post #27
kelseyfrog wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A lot of people, myself included, actively choose to reject this version of nihilism. It castrates the will to power.

Everything sucks is a fine viewpoint, as long as you remember that some things suck less. Criticism is perfectly fine. But we should still seek improvement in light of it.

Very few things suck in the context of history.

Re: The Moral Case for No Longer Engaging with Elon Musk’s X

#53

Post by rsynnott »

grecy wrote: post #24

I am confused why people care so much, and spend so much time convicing others of their position about Twitter/X It's just a private company running a website. They come and go like myspace, tumblr and whatever else. One day nobody will use Facebook or Reddit. Why are people so caught up personally and emotionally about a single one going to crap? Use it if you like it, and stop using it if you don't. It seems extrem…

I _liked_ Twitter. I mean, like most users of what was affectionately known as the hellsite, I hated it a bit too, but I mostly liked it. I was on Twitter from 2007 to 2022. Back before they realised auto-incrementing numeric IDs were hard to scale, I was in the six digits. I feel entitled to be a _little_ irritated that it has being ruined by some idiot.

I mean, been there before (grumble mutter freenode) and it’s not the end of the world, but I’m not quite at the “meh, whatever” stage.

Re: The Moral Case for No Longer Engaging with Elon Musk’s X

#54

Post by mbfg »

elforce002 wrote: post #43
hypeit wrote: post #12

I stopped using Twitter as soon as Musk bought it precisely for moral reasons. I'm not going to help someone who wrongly accuses people of being pedophiles make more money. There are of course many, many, many other moral reasons to not support Musk but the pedophile incident is so cut and dry that there was moral (non-partisan) reason to bail on day 1 of Musk ownership.

Not defending Elon here but I hope you don't use ig, fb, or any other social media platform because, from data breach to scamming, bad business is being conducted there too.

i don't use any of these for these reasons and other reasons. These leaders have proven they are evil. But perhaps in other cases there is a difference between evil thru general incompetence and evil thru competence.

Re: The Moral Case for No Longer Engaging with Elon Musk’s X

#55

Post by DoesntMatter22 »

rsynnott wrote: post #34

The practical case - it's very annoying and broken. (Like, I fled for largely moral reasons last November, but by January it was unusable for practical reasons anyway, with the death of third party clients and the promotion of insufferable blueticks in front of proper replies.)

I've been using it since the beginning and I don't really notice anything broken. They had a couple of issues here and there but for the most part it's pretty much the same just a lot of new features which are pretty nice.

Re: The Moral Case for No Longer Engaging with Elon Musk’s X

#56

Post by DoesntMatter22 »

splintercell wrote: post #18

I was asked today by someone if I used alternate social networks like Nostr, and my reasoning was simple, I don't, because this wouldn't be the first time I moved away from a mainstream social media and failed to find other platforms useful. But far more importantly, I love Twitter/X because of the community notes feature. On an average I stop myself around 30% of the time when an unbelievable story gets community no…

Notes is really underrated. I know it's popular to hate Musk but as a feature it's been really great. A lot of times I'm like "Wow this seems crazy" and then Notes explains it a hoax. Very helpful imo

Re: The Moral Case for No Longer Engaging with Elon Musk’s X

#57

Post by fallingfrog »

grecy wrote: post #24

I am confused why people care so much, and spend so much time convicing others of their position about Twitter/X It's just a private company running a website. They come and go like myspace, tumblr and whatever else. One day nobody will use Facebook or Reddit. Why are people so caught up personally and emotionally about a single one going to crap? Use it if you like it, and stop using it if you don't. It seems extrem…

It’s just weird, because usually a social media site becomes unpopular when something better comes along. In this case, a rich weirdo took it out behind the tool shed like old Yeller. And right at the peak of its popularity when it seemed unstoppable. And seemingly he did it just for the lulz. Bizarre.

Re: The Moral Case for No Longer Engaging with Elon Musk’s X

#58

Post by dragontamer »

rednerrus wrote: post #52
dragontamer wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Everything sucks is a fine viewpoint, as long as you remember that some things suck less. Criticism is perfectly fine. But we should still seek improvement in light of it.

Very few things suck in the context of history.

Everything sucks in the context of future, yet to be implemented, improvements.

The problem is not marching forward and progressing. If you use everything sucks to turn your brain off and accept things for what they are, you will be discouraged from progress.

Re: The Moral Case for No Longer Engaging with Elon Musk’s X

#60

Post by hulitu »

jszymborski wrote: post #28
pizzaknife wrote: post #3

Having worked in newspaper (yes! actual paper!) space for several years, my perspective on this is : Everything is gray. For those living around mid 20th century : pot calling the kettle black. For the 00s : EverythingIsTerrible

That sort of black pilled nihilism is how the terrible win. Plenty is good, plenty is worth fighting for.

A newspaper talking about morality is a contradiction in terms.
Post reply on HN