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Hyundai’s future EVs will also have Tesla’s EV charging port

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Re: Hyundai’s future EVs will also have Tesla’s EV charging port

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it was so annoying to suffer the fools who loudly complained about tesla roadblocking a universal charger while ignoring the fact that NACS was way better than the alternatives

I mean if Tesla wasn't offering it to other companies to use, then that's part of the thing. Things changed, and now things are better. Progress!

Re: Hyundai’s future EVs will also have Tesla’s EV charging port

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it was so annoying to suffer the fools who loudly complained about tesla roadblocking a universal charger while ignoring the fact that NACS was way better than the alternatives

I mean if Tesla wasn't offering it to other companies to use, then that's part of the thing. Things changed, and now things are better. Progress!

a small part…

Re: Hyundai’s future EVs will also have Tesla’s EV charging port

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I mean if Tesla wasn't offering it to other companies to use, then that's part of the thing. Things changed, and now things are better. Progress!

a small part…

"Let's have a universal connector"

"The biggest EV manufacturer does not want to change their connector"

"OK so let's use theirs"

"..."

This is why we talk about blockers

Re: Hyundai’s future EVs will also have Tesla’s EV charging port

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

a small part…

"Let's have a universal connector" "The biggest EV manufacturer does not want to change their connector" "OK so let's use theirs" "..." This is why we talk about blockers

The only way this would constitute a "blocker" is if they actively prevented every one else from using the same connector due to patents etc... I don't know whether that was the case, but simply "not wanting to change their connector" doesn't mean they are blocking progress. They were the first to roll out massive charging infrastructure. I would say it was silly of the other manufacturers to not standardize on what was already there.

Re: Hyundai’s future EVs will also have Tesla’s EV charging port

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Let's have a universal connector" "The biggest EV manufacturer does not want to change their connector" "OK so let's use theirs" "..." This is why we talk about blockers

The only way this would constitute a "blocker" is if they actively prevented every one else from using the same connector due to patents etc... I don't know whether that was the case, but simply "not wanting to change their connector" doesn't mean they are blocking progress. They were the first to roll out massive charging infrastructure. I would say it was silly of the other manufacturers to not standardize on what…

Their patent sharing terms say that they get rights beyond patents or copyright: if you use their patents you agree not to copy any of their "designs," a vague term that no one can really be sure of how expansive it is.

Re: Hyundai’s future EVs will also have Tesla’s EV charging port

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Let's have a universal connector" "The biggest EV manufacturer does not want to change their connector" "OK so let's use theirs" "..." This is why we talk about blockers

The only way this would constitute a "blocker" is if they actively prevented every one else from using the same connector due to patents etc... I don't know whether that was the case, but simply "not wanting to change their connector" doesn't mean they are blocking progress. They were the first to roll out massive charging infrastructure. I would say it was silly of the other manufacturers to not standardize on what…

> I would say it was silly of the other manufacturers to not standardize on what was already there.

it seems silly right now, but letting your competitor own a platform for which your business depends is folly, unless there's regulation on that platform.

Re: Hyundai’s future EVs will also have Tesla’s EV charging port

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The only way this would constitute a "blocker" is if they actively prevented every one else from using the same connector due to patents etc... I don't know whether that was the case, but simply "not wanting to change their connector" doesn't mean they are blocking progress. They were the first to roll out massive charging infrastructure. I would say it was silly of the other manufacturers to not standardize on what…

> I would say it was silly of the other manufacturers to not standardize on what was already there. it seems silly right now, but letting your competitor own a platform for which your business depends is folly, unless there's regulation on that platform.

That is why Tesla has handed NACS to SAE to formalize it as an independent standard free from encumbrance.
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