ChromeOS is my x-window. Debian is my terminal. Google has done a nice job of integrating the two. The only real constraint is the hardware.
Disclaimer: I was a pre-release beta tester for ChromeOS.
ChromeOS is Linux with Google’s desktop environment
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#82ChromeOS is my x-window. Debian is my terminal. Google has done a nice job of integrating the two. The only real constraint is the hardware. Disclaimer: I was a pre-release beta tester for ChromeOS.
The matte-black laptop they shipped out to beta testers for ChromeOS is still the best laptop I've ever owned. Maybe not processing speed-wise, but the size and everything else was perfection.
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#83ChromeOS is my x-window. Debian is my terminal. Google has done a nice job of integrating the two. The only real constraint is the hardware. Disclaimer: I was a pre-release beta tester for ChromeOS.
The matte-black laptop they shipped out to beta testers for ChromeOS is still the best laptop I've ever owned. Maybe not processing speed-wise, but the size and everything else was perfection.
Ah yes, the CR-48 [1]. Named after an unstable isotope of the element chromium...
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#84Yeah, it is funny how successful Linux became as a desktop while basically noone was paying attention. I just wish the keyboards were more developer friendly. Give me F keys!
It became successful because the Linux-y stuff are invisible to the average non tech users, just like on Android.
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#85What happened to the Fuchsia project?
It's still going and Google still refuses to explain why it exists. It was rumored that some of the team was laid off during recent cost cutting.
It’s not rumored. It was widely reported on and many people discussed their impact publicly.
Fuchsia is shipping on real devices today (their home hubs) although yea it’s not clear why, they now have quite a few operating systems they manage.
1. Android of course. Chrome casts and phones and tablets use this.
2. Fuchsia for the home hubs.
3. ChromeOS for the chromebooks and stuff.
4. GCP probably has a cloud Linux like AWS but tbh I’m not familiar.
They’ve killed “castOS” which was a very limited Linux based system I think.
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#87Yeah, it is funny how successful Linux became as a desktop while basically noone was paying attention. I just wish the keyboards were more developer friendly. Give me F keys!
It became successful because the Linux-y stuff are invisible to the average non tech users, just like on Android.
What is "Linux-y stuff"? Is Linux defined by having to use a terminal?
Android is basically an entirely different OS stack running on top of a Linux kernel. ChromeOS used to have it's own rendering and window management pipeline among other things, but as time has progressed their stack has gotten progressively more FOSS. You can run Linux apps, open a terminal, play Steam games via Proton, all from the default window manager/UI.
It's rootfs is locked down by default, but so is Fedora Silverblue or SteamOS. It can be optionally locked down further and turned into a managed system, but so can any distro. In terms of UX it's much more Ubuntu than it is Android.
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#88Earlier quoted context omitted.
I used a Chromebook as my main laptop for a year in college, and I always had to apologize to nearby strangers for the beep. (CS major, coding happened mostly over SSH to the school servers, but I did run RStudio locally)
How often does one reboot their laptop around nearby strangers? I gotta be honest that some of these criticisms seem a little strained. I mean, it's true, they beep at boot when dev mode is enabled!
I shut all of my computers all the way off when I’m finished using them, which means I have to turn them on when I start using them.
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#89Earlier quoted context omitted.
I find this very hard to believe. There is no "$200 Chromebook" that will ever out-perform a "high-end" machine no matter if it's running Windows + WSL2 or not. So what are the specs of this "high-end" machine?
I meant to say that it "outperforms" less in terms of speed (although it's not bad relative to the price of the laptop) but more in terms of developer experience. Everything just works in Linux and it's fast compared to WSL which I get constant issues.
The issue I see with WSL all the time is long waits as things start up. I have no idea what it's doing, but it is painfully slow starting nearly anything up. It's like drive reads are one character at a time or something! Once it gets going, things are fine.
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I'm still not understanding the criticism. You're saying it's bad that kids can't hack on their school-supplied/parent-managed computers. And... I think I agree, as far as it goes. But you're responding to a thread saying "Chromebooks are good for Developers", where's it's just not responsive. There's absolutely no reason schools or parents can't hand kids unmanaged/unrestricted Chromebooks; they just choose not to (…
>There’s no reason schools or parents can’t hand kids unmanaged/unrestricted Chromebooks Holy cow. Are you serious? Kids break stuff for fun. This is basically a “You’re holding it wrong” argument. Schools are gonna have heavily managed chromebooks, because it’s the reality on the ground that they can hardly afford anything, much less insane IT support for every student. Like, kids are going to actively sabotage the…
Virtually any Linux distro can be turned into a managed OS.