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Ron Patrick's Street-Legal Jet Powered Volkswagen Beetle (2006)

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Re: Ron Patrick's Street-Legal Jet Powered Volkswagen Beetle (2006)

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We live in a society where things are legal by default. Why would adding a jet engine to a car be a priori illegal? If he harms somebody or otherwise causes damage, that itself is what's illegal and he'd be liable regardless of motor vehicle regulations. If this mod became a larger trend, especially consumer-available, then regulations would be implemented to head it off. But for a few lone instances it's not particu…

In California, you have to register your car and have it pass a smog test. How would this pass that?

Just drive on the gasoline engine.

Re: Ron Patrick's Street-Legal Jet Powered Volkswagen Beetle (2006)

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Seems like a good time to ask this question that has been bugging me forever, since all the HN jet nerds will be drawn to this thread: Why hasn't anyone made a hybrid car that uses a gasoline-powered turbine generator to charge its batteries instead of a piston engine? I'd imagine that hooking up such an engine directly to the drivetrain like in a Prius would be difficult, but surely a small turbine with one hell of…

i think even the tiny, model jet engines used in radio control planes are both very hot, and move lots of air. both of which are hard to tame to the point of making them comfortable to coexist with on a city street in large herds. I still want one. direct the exhaust forward, dump in a little extra fuel, and instant snowblower / flamethrower. Makes that pesky crosswalk crowd just melt away.

And turns it into a skating rink five minutes later. You want the snow to go away, not to change into liquid water on a sub-zero stone substrate.

Re: Ron Patrick's Street-Legal Jet Powered Volkswagen Beetle (2006)

#74

Earlier quoted context omitted.

i think even the tiny, model jet engines used in radio control planes are both very hot, and move lots of air. both of which are hard to tame to the point of making them comfortable to coexist with on a city street in large herds. I still want one. direct the exhaust forward, dump in a little extra fuel, and instant snowblower / flamethrower. Makes that pesky crosswalk crowd just melt away.

And turns it into a skating rink five minutes later. You want the snow to go away, not to change into liquid water on a sub-zero stone substrate.

Excellent point, but i must rebut: (a) i'm already on my way by then, and (b) FIRE!

Re: Ron Patrick's Street-Legal Jet Powered Volkswagen Beetle (2006)

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Seems like a good time to ask this question that has been bugging me forever, since all the HN jet nerds will be drawn to this thread: Why hasn't anyone made a hybrid car that uses a gasoline-powered turbine generator to charge its batteries instead of a piston engine? I'd imagine that hooking up such an engine directly to the drivetrain like in a Prius would be difficult, but surely a small turbine with one hell of…

I don’t have the source at hand, but a gas turbine is ridiculously inefficient for variable loads. At idle, fuel consumption can be ~35% of what it is at full power. It would only need to charge for short time, and subsequently shut off. When a charge top-up is required, startup would be another rigamarole. Now, rotary engines, that’s a different story…

https://www.mazda.co.uk/cars/mazda-mx-30-r-ev/

Re: Ron Patrick's Street-Legal Jet Powered Volkswagen Beetle (2006)

#77

Seems like a good time to ask this question that has been bugging me forever, since all the HN jet nerds will be drawn to this thread: Why hasn't anyone made a hybrid car that uses a gasoline-powered turbine generator to charge its batteries instead of a piston engine? I'd imagine that hooking up such an engine directly to the drivetrain like in a Prius would be difficult, but surely a small turbine with one hell of…

i think even the tiny, model jet engines used in radio control planes are both very hot, and move lots of air. both of which are hard to tame to the point of making them comfortable to coexist with on a city street in large herds. I still want one. direct the exhaust forward, dump in a little extra fuel, and instant snowblower / flamethrower. Makes that pesky crosswalk crowd just melt away.

It's a(t least one) thing. Test run before the snow gets too deep:

Jet Powered Blower https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BcEkt5vQTVQ

Re: Ron Patrick's Street-Legal Jet Powered Volkswagen Beetle (2006)

#78

Seems like a good time to ask this question that has been bugging me forever, since all the HN jet nerds will be drawn to this thread: Why hasn't anyone made a hybrid car that uses a gasoline-powered turbine generator to charge its batteries instead of a piston engine? I'd imagine that hooking up such an engine directly to the drivetrain like in a Prius would be difficult, but surely a small turbine with one hell of…

As mentioned in a sibling comment, turbines don't scale down very well. Boundary layer friction gets relatively worse for smaller turbines, and AFAIU small turbines have relatively larger inefficiency due to air leaking past between the blades and the casing, etc.

There's a couple of companies working on recuperated turbine engines for small aircraft in the few hundred kW range, remains to be seen whether any of these will succeed.

Re: Ron Patrick's Street-Legal Jet Powered Volkswagen Beetle (2006)

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"The car has two engines: the production gasoline engine in the front driving the front wheels and the jet engine in the back." Careful wording to give the impression that the drive shaft of the helicopter turbine would be connected to the rear wheels, without actually claiming that it is. So it's a car with a large flame thrower in the back, minor The Boring Company vibes. Well possible that the author might have ha…

It produces thrust in the normal way a jet engine aircraft does... with high exhaust velocity. From the videos you can see shock diamonds, so it is producing supersonic exhaust.

Re: Ron Patrick's Street-Legal Jet Powered Volkswagen Beetle (2006)

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Seems like a good time to ask this question that has been bugging me forever, since all the HN jet nerds will be drawn to this thread: Why hasn't anyone made a hybrid car that uses a gasoline-powered turbine generator to charge its batteries instead of a piston engine? I'd imagine that hooking up such an engine directly to the drivetrain like in a Prius would be difficult, but surely a small turbine with one hell of…

To add to the discussion - the M1 Abrams tank uses a turbine. I don't know how that's linked up to the tracks though.

Interestingly, that engine has good power to weight ratio, has a better noise profile (higher pitched noise, that doesn't transmit far, albeit louder locally), can operate with a variety of fuels, and can handle arctic conditions.

The downside is that it consumes 50% more fuel than a comparable diesel engine.

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