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September was the most anomalously hot month ever
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Re: September was the most anomalously hot month ever
#182Earlier quoted context omitted.
> We could easily cut our use of fossil fuels if we weren't trying to balance that with an arbitrary GDP growth target. We could stop incentivizing people and companies to consume disposable products. We could stop subsidizing massive industrial farms and instead focus on eating locally and growing some of your own food. Then it's the small task of changing the economic model of the entire developed (and less develop…
And just on cue there it is: “It is easier to imagine the end of the world than to imagine the end of Capitalism”, variously attributed to Frederic Jameson and Mark Fisher (amongst others).
Ok?
Re: September was the most anomalously hot month ever
#183My experience with climate change fearmongering. 'Most ever' turns out to be 'the last few decades'. Lets see shall we? Headline: "September Was the Most Anomalously Hot Month Ever" In the article: "September was the most anomalously warm month ever recorded." So september was the most anomalously hot month ever 'recorded'? So what? The last 50 years? 100 years? Which isn't saying a lot. They always misrepresent and…
Please calm down and research deeper everything you said, for the preparation and thus wellbeing of yourself and your loved ones. I have no incentive to tell anyone that actual Collapse is the civilization is going on since 1971 (the first year Earth Overshoot Day happened) and will accelerate very soon in the future to cause billions of deaths. I have no incentive, it's a nasty, dark and grim topic, except the fact that I care about another human being's life and wellbeing.
Or maybe just look up Earth Overshoot Day. The Collapse is as inevitable as it gets.
Re: September was the most anomalously hot month ever
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Re: September was the most anomalously hot month ever
#185Earlier quoted context omitted.
> We could easily cut our use of fossil fuels if we weren't trying to balance that with an arbitrary GDP growth target. We could stop incentivizing people and companies to consume disposable products. We could stop subsidizing massive industrial farms and instead focus on eating locally and growing some of your own food. Then it's the small task of changing the economic model of the entire developed (and less develop…
And just on cue there it is: “It is easier to imagine the end of the world than to imagine the end of Capitalism”, variously attributed to Frederic Jameson and Mark Fisher (amongst others).
Because communist countries don’t pollute?
Re: September was the most anomalously hot month ever
#186Earlier quoted context omitted.
For the same reason that in the winter the weather people tell you the temperature, but then are sure to include the windchill factor (which makes it sound worse). In the summer they tell you the temperature and be sure to include the "real feel", which includes the heat index and makes it sound worse. Arguably, in the winter there's still a heat index and in the summer a wind chill, but that would make the news soun…
> Bad news sells. People often claim this, but I don't think it's true. I think news organisations on average underplay the threat from climate change. What actually sells is confirming people's world view. Telling people "everything's fine, look at these silly scientists panicking over nothing" seems very popular with a large segment of the population.
I haven't watched recently but at least in the USA, local news is always a parade of crimes, accidents and fires with sports and weather to round out the 22 minute run time, but as you write, climate change was non existent since it's hard to adapt to the few minutes of video and sentences each story got. One would get the impression that there is a lot of crime and fires in the local area from the sampling bias, and my understanding is this where a large percentage of old people and less educated get their news so it sort of reinforces a lack of urgency to these people about climate change.
Re: September was the most anomalously hot month ever
#187I was just remarking to a friend in Budapest today that it's already October, but all of the trees are still green like it's the middle of July. Very bizzare.
Noticed the same thing myself today. Not long until winter and it feels like a mild summers day.
Re: September was the most anomalously hot month ever
#188Earlier quoted context omitted.
> We could easily cut our use of fossil fuels if we weren't trying to balance that with an arbitrary GDP growth target. We could stop incentivizing people and companies to consume disposable products. We could stop subsidizing massive industrial farms and instead focus on eating locally and growing some of your own food. Then it's the small task of changing the economic model of the entire developed (and less develop…
The economic model is going to change one way or another. A model designed around perpetual growth will always fail, and there are already plenty of cracks showing. A major economic change sounds impossible, but we've done it in the US at least three times in the last century.
That was true 200 years ago and maybe even 200.000 years ago. Some day there will be no more growth - but it could be another 200.000 years.
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#189Earlier quoted context omitted.
Asking people to have less, experience less, and do less isn’t an argument that can ever win. The winning argument is to show how you can consume more energy for less money by using sustainable technology. Cramped trains will rarely win politically but electric cars that go fast and look cool do win. In essence I believe the only politically viable way to reduce carbon is to engineer and tech our way to systems that…
> Asking people to have less, experience less, and do less isn’t an argument that can ever win. Yes and no. I agree that if your approach is to ask people to do this, you aren't going to win the argument. But instead you can reframe the argument. Does that $70,000 truck that you have to make payments on while you do back-breaking or soul-crushing work to afford it really make you happy? Do you really get use out of t…
>> Does that $70,000 truck that you have to make payments on while you do back-breaking or soul-crushing work to afford it really make you happy?
Cars, apart from their direct purpose, also serve as status symbol. This might justify the investment.
Re: September was the most anomalously hot month ever
#190Can someone help me understand why when there’s a record cold month, there’s a convo like this > non-believer: “see global warming doesn’t exist” > believer: “you can’t measure this on a monthly scale, it’s too slow of a process” But often when the case is reversed, it’s used as evidence of global warming? I know global warming is real and I am a firm believer in it but this duality seems to cause a lot of issues whe…
Hit them with this fact:
In June 2023, none of the Earth’s surface had record cold, year-to-date.
Tangent: I have a very good source for this fact, however searching will not reveal it. The current state of search is horrible. I'm interested if anyone can find it. I'll link to it later this evening.