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Re: Krita fund has no corporate support

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Post by Uehreka »

winter_blue wrote: post #135

Why does it say "5 developers $ 17k / month"? Is that 1 developer of $17k / month? (So a $204k annual salary?) Or, does it mean 5 developers for $17k / month (i.e. a $40k annual salary?) If it's the latter, I'm highly concerned. Even in countries like India salaries like $60k USD (INR 50 lakh) has become a bare minimum for software engineers who are even the least bit talented... For a really good software developer…

Uhhh, $180k is an awesome developer salary in the US (as long as you’re not talking about silicon valley salaries, which most Americans aren’t).

There are also definitely juniors in the US making $60k (and probably even less).

Re: Krita fund has no corporate support

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Post by Woshiwuja »

martypitt wrote: post #133
lars_francke wrote: post #7

I want someone to build this: SBOM (Software Bill of Materials) are slowly becoming ubiquitus around the world due to regulation. I want to be able to aggregate all SBOMs within my company, have a small tool that scans my machine and creates a SBOM for all Open Source tools I use (e.g. Firefox, VLC etc.), uploads that to my corporate registry. This data is then submitted to a donation aggregator which analyzes those…

I've been toying with an idea of some kind of "Spotify for OSS" kinda thing - where software authors can make their binaries available, provided you have an active subscription (with the Spotify for OSS service). Funds are then distributed based on usage (trackable at the package registry). The idea being corporates buy a single license per head, rather than dealing with lots of donations etc. Probably lots of reason…

It's a good idea but that would mean companies now have to pay. And they don't like it. (unless is for useless shit nobody cares about that doesnt make your job easier, they got loads for that)

Re: Krita fund has no corporate support

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Post by hallarempt »

moelf wrote: post #29
whoza wrote: post #21

But krita.org says "Special thanks to Intel, Corporate GOLD Sponsor." What's the reconciliation between these two pages?

https://krita.org/en/item/intel-becomes-first-krita-developm... maybe that has ended

No, it's still actual, but they don't have a listing the fund.krita.org database because they sponsored us directly.

Re: Krita fund has no corporate support

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Post by digging »

zorrotorro wrote: post #116
lars_francke wrote: post #7

I want someone to build this: SBOM (Software Bill of Materials) are slowly becoming ubiquitus around the world due to regulation. I want to be able to aggregate all SBOMs within my company, have a small tool that scans my machine and creates a SBOM for all Open Source tools I use (e.g. Firefox, VLC etc.), uploads that to my corporate registry. This data is then submitted to a donation aggregator which analyzes those…

Don't take this the wrong way but corporate are such prima donnas! I got flashbacks from my tiny startup days when corporate went to procurement companies which wanted specific terms and mode of payment. And after all the infrastructure was in place... they basically spent no money! The SBOM idea exists in various forms. Few need it and few use it. If somebody wants to pay money, they will figure out a way. If they w…

> If somebody wants to pay money, they will figure out a way. If they want to invent an excuse they will find one.

I think this is just not true. Reducing friction will increase participation.

I make donations to many organizations currently. I would donate to more, but it's a hassle to identify them and determine what/how I want to donate. It's just not a top priority for me, for better or worse. But if I could click a button right now and 5x my donations with the trust that they were supporting what I wanted them to, I'd do it!

edit: Also, this is a reminder to me that everything is a choice and I could be spending my time setting up donations instead of commenting on HN...

Re: Krita fund has no corporate support

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Post by johnnyanmac »

raincole wrote: post #53
hospitalJail wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hate defacto standards behind corporations. M$ Windows, Photoshop, each company gets locked into their own CAD nightmare. On the flip slide, we have Blender, Linux Server, (enough)SQL, Git, Stable Diffusion, and maybe python/python libraries if that counts.

When I moved from web dev to game dev, the second most surprising thing I found is how much this industry depends on proprietary solutions compared to web dev. The most surprising thing is how little professional people get paid, again compared to web dev.

Not too surprising. It's built into gaming's history to work on and release a game purely woth in house tech. And then submit it to a proprietary console maker for a "seal of quality" (or what used to be that). And then other important tools (especially for artists, but a lot for programmibg) served this same mentality as AAA development grew. Support was more important than anything else as tools became more comple, and these studios weren't used to sharing to begin with.

The phenomenon of open source tools being able to even be considered by professional development is a very recent phenomenon (in the grand scheme of things). But for programmers it's still difficult because console support is so important and still extremely closed down.

Re: Krita fund has no corporate support

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Post by BeFlatXIII »

raincole wrote: post #18

I'm migrating from Krita to Photoshop lately. Don't get me wrong, I love Krita. I used it for years and I wrote ~30+ bug reports. It's a positive thing -- I won't bother reporting bugs to Adobe cause I know they don't care, unlike Krita devs. However every time I need to collaborate with someone else, they use Photoshop. They use .psd like it's an interchangeable format[1]. Out of 10+ artists I've only seen one who d…

Does that one (1) non-Photoshop artist prefer .xcf?

Re: Krita fund has no corporate support

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Post by orlandohill »

cornholio wrote: post #91
orlandohill wrote: post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Another approach is to allow free non-commercial use, and to charge for commercial licenses. There are licenses that grant all the rights that non-commercial users want, but still require businesses to pay. https://polyformproject.org/licenses/noncommercial/1.0.0/ https://prosperitylicense.com/

But that's no longer open source, and offers no protection to the users against lock in. All it takes is some change of leadership or VC funding and the permissive license will be abandoned in favor of a proprietary revenue-maximizing model. Human nature and all. What is needed is a non-repudiable commitment from the vendor that the software will be fully open source, and a business incentive for them to continue dev…

Both the PolyForm Noncommercial License and the Prosperity Public License are irrevocable. There is no lock-in. Everyone gets the code, just like with an OSI-approved "open source" license.

Dual commercial/non-commercial licensing like this is a simple way to require commercial users to fund the further development and maintenance of the software.

Re: Krita fund has no corporate support

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Post by hedora »

lars_francke wrote: post #7

I want someone to build this: SBOM (Software Bill of Materials) are slowly becoming ubiquitus around the world due to regulation. I want to be able to aggregate all SBOMs within my company, have a small tool that scans my machine and creates a SBOM for all Open Source tools I use (e.g. Firefox, VLC etc.), uploads that to my corporate registry. This data is then submitted to a donation aggregator which analyzes those…

I'm hoping "cargo vet"'s approach to supply chain security becomes standard practice:

https://mozilla.github.io/cargo-vet/

Adding a "pay upstream" feature to it would probably be minimal incremental effort. Someone is already supposed to pay the third-party auditors, after all.

Re: Krita fund has no corporate support

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Post by carapace »

lars_francke wrote: post #122
birdyrooster wrote: post #79

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I read this several times and I have no idea what benefit this would serve or anything about it.

Let's say I want to make sure to donate to ALL open source projects I use in my company. Those in my builds as well as those used on our computers that are not build dependencies (e.g. Firefox, vim, Linux, ...). How do I do that today? I collect a list of that software and contact hundreds of individual people and organizations, figure out the donation processes, fill out forms, transfer money etc. I want this to be…

This proposal would lead (I suspect) to "enshittification" of the supply chain as people wrangled to be larger portions of the dependency/payment tree, eh?

Part of what makes FOSS work at all is that the motivation is not profit but benefit.

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