September was the most anomalously hot month ever
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September was the most anomalously hot month ever
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Re: September was the most anomalously hot month ever
#2Related,
2023 on track to be the warmest year on record (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37776748)
Linking directly to the above study since the submission has no comments,
Copernicus: September 2023 – unprecedented temperature anomalies (https://climate.copernicus.eu/copernicus-september-2023-unpr...)
Re: September was the most anomalously hot month ever
#3...until October 2023, probably :(
Re: September was the most anomalously hot month ever
#4Can someone help me understand why when there’s a record cold month, there’s a convo like this
> non-believer: “see global warming doesn’t exist” > believer: “you can’t measure this on a monthly scale, it’s too slow of a process”
But often when the case is reversed, it’s used as evidence of global warming? I know global warming is real and I am a firm believer in it but this duality seems to cause a lot of issues when discussing global warming.
Re: September was the most anomalously hot month ever
#5Can someone help me understand why when there’s a record cold month, there’s a convo like this > non-believer: “see global warming doesn’t exist” > believer: “you can’t measure this on a monthly scale, it’s too slow of a process” But often when the case is reversed, it’s used as evidence of global warming? I know global warming is real and I am a firm believer in it but this duality seems to cause a lot of issues whe…
Global warming is not a belief. It’s just a theory, like gravity
Re: September was the most anomalously hot month ever
#6So… Why is there a climate scientist working for a payments processor?
Re: September was the most anomalously hot month ever
#7Can someone help me understand why when there’s a record cold month, there’s a convo like this > non-believer: “see global warming doesn’t exist” > believer: “you can’t measure this on a monthly scale, it’s too slow of a process” But often when the case is reversed, it’s used as evidence of global warming? I know global warming is real and I am a firm believer in it but this duality seems to cause a lot of issues whe…
It's not, taken in complete isolation, evidence for global warming. It's an example of it. When people call something evidence in this sense, they mean it colloquially - that it is an exemplar of an overall body of evidence that points in a particular direction. The record cold month is part of the same body of evidence that, overall, points to the existence of global warming, but it isn't an exemplar of that evidence, so it doesn't get called "evidence" colloquially.
Similarly, an individual fossil might be called evidence of evolution, but nobody thinks you should take this one fossil as a knockdown argument that evolution is real. On the other hand, when a strange fossil that's anomalous with the rest of the record is uncovered, a creationist might call this "evidence that evolution is false", but just as in the record cold month case, it's correct to point out that you shouldn't be looking at individual fossils.
So what's happening here is that people are using the word "evidence" in a rather casual manner. Properly, what we're talking about here is an example, and in this case it's a very pertinent example because people have been given a concrete picture of what the world might look like on a regular basis in the near future.
(Obviously there are some members of the public who really do think a single month is proof of global warming, or vice versa, but I'm trying not to strawman anyone here.)
Re: September was the most anomalously hot month ever
#8Can someone help me understand why when there’s a record cold month, there’s a convo like this > non-believer: “see global warming doesn’t exist” > believer: “you can’t measure this on a monthly scale, it’s too slow of a process” But often when the case is reversed, it’s used as evidence of global warming? I know global warming is real and I am a firm believer in it but this duality seems to cause a lot of issues whe…
Do we ever record record cold months on a global scale?
My understanding is that globally, we keep seeing record warm months. Perhaps locally there are some record cold months but that's much less _news_ than the entre global average.
Re: September was the most anomalously hot month ever
#9Can someone help me understand why when there’s a record cold month, there’s a convo like this > non-believer: “see global warming doesn’t exist” > believer: “you can’t measure this on a monthly scale, it’s too slow of a process” But often when the case is reversed, it’s used as evidence of global warming? I know global warming is real and I am a firm believer in it but this duality seems to cause a lot of issues whe…
Put "Ever" back into "Month Ever". "Ever" is what's being analyzed and September is the outcome of that analysis.
Re: September was the most anomalously hot month ever
#10Can someone help me understand why when there’s a record cold month, there’s a convo like this > non-believer: “see global warming doesn’t exist” > believer: “you can’t measure this on a monthly scale, it’s too slow of a process” But often when the case is reversed, it’s used as evidence of global warming? I know global warming is real and I am a firm believer in it but this duality seems to cause a lot of issues whe…
Because there hasn't been a "record cold month" since 1917.
What you're talking about is people discussing local weather.