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Re: Pixel 8 Pro

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Post by raincole »

kimbernator wrote: post #178

It's starting to feel silly, having a yearly release cycle for smartphones. So much of this product page is focused on new software functions that may have some vague relationship with the slightly upgraded hardware, but that could mostly be released to existing phones. Every new iPhone, Pixel, or Samsung phone basically claims the camera is marginally better and hey, look at these software features that have very li…

> Every new iPhone, Pixel, or Samsung phone basically claims the camera is marginally better and hey, look at these software features that have very little to do with the hardware and should not fundamentally be a reason to upgrade to this phone.

But the software development is driven by the profit from hardware sales. Why would they improve the software if it doesn't make money?

I guess in the ideal world the phone's software should be pay-to-upgrade but free-to-stay-as-is.

Re: Pixel 8 Pro

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Post by dotancohen »

prmoustache wrote: post #693
dotancohen wrote: post #664

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This is not Reddit, you do not need to prefix comments with personal attacks. Nor is karma farmed here by insinuating that you are poor, confused about your gender, or had abusive parents. If by "bubble" you mean my family, nobody but the eight year old has seen a new phone since before the first COVID lockdowns. And the phones that my children use were are purchased with money they earned themselves - including the…

I don't see that as a personal attack. It is factual. No teenager - except the richest ones - can afford buying a new smartphone every year, neither do their parents. And most of those that can afford it would still want to buy other things instead when they already have one, which means only the richest of the richest ones really do that.

The "attack" was deciding that I live on a bubble of rich parents. In fact, my own mother wouldn't be hungry during dinner many evenings while we were growing up... only years later did I realize why.

Re: Pixel 8 Pro

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Post by dotancohen »

dieortin wrote: post #691
dotancohen wrote: post #664

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This is not Reddit, you do not need to prefix comments with personal attacks. Nor is karma farmed here by insinuating that you are poor, confused about your gender, or had abusive parents. If by "bubble" you mean my family, nobody but the eight year old has seen a new phone since before the first COVID lockdowns. And the phones that my children use were are purchased with money they earned themselves - including the…

Maybe having a phone at six is normal now but it sounds crazy to me

He got the phone at eight, but in general I agree with you.

As a father, I see the phone as an opportunity to teach limits from an early age. And wow, does he test those limits! In retrospect, it is better that him and I are going through this testing phase at eight, rather than in the rebellious teenage years.

Re: Pixel 8 Pro

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Post by aembleton »

dmead wrote: post #474
kimbernator wrote: post #178

It's starting to feel silly, having a yearly release cycle for smartphones. So much of this product page is focused on new software functions that may have some vague relationship with the slightly upgraded hardware, but that could mostly be released to existing phones. Every new iPhone, Pixel, or Samsung phone basically claims the camera is marginally better and hey, look at these software features that have very li…

no no, you should just separate your papers and plastics and keep buying the pocket super computer every year.

Do you also buy a new car when a model update comes out? Do you a new laptop every time a new one gets released?

You don't have to get the latest phone all of the time.

Re: Pixel 8 Pro

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Post by kkielhofner »

amf12 wrote: post #494
kkielhofner wrote: post #339

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Finally. The planned obsolescence conversation seems to revolve around Apple (the only self-interested greedy company on the planet according to the detractors) but they hold the record for software updates on smartphones - 10 years for the iPhone 5s. Here we are, in 2023, and Google is coming around to seven years of support. Apple has done at least seven since 2013. In any case I applaud this move and at least five…

There is a slight difference in how OS updates work in iOS and Android. iOS system apps release with the OS on an annual cycle, but in Android system apps are upgraded independently. Meaning, even without Android OS upgrades the device would get new system apps.

I’m aware of this. I’m not talking about system apps.

I’m talking about the operating system version targeted for applications, functionality, etc.

Take one look at an Android fragmentation chart compared to iPhone and I think you’ll see what I’m saying.

Re: Pixel 8 Pro

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Post by goosedragons »

scarface_74 wrote: post #736
ahartmetz wrote: post #715

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Hyperbole much? 2003 x86 laptop: 1-2h battery life, fan ~always on, annoying tonal fan noise 2023 x86 laptop: 6-10h battery life, fan off in idle, some kind of wide spectrum whooshing sound when on

You realize how bad 6 hour battery life is right compared to the MacBook Air? And my work Microsoft Surface laptop fan never shuts off.

And my work x86 Thinkpad fan rarely spins up and when it does it's way quieter than my Intel MBP ever was. Also gets 8 hours battery life web browsing which is good enough.

It's almost like there's a spectrum of PCs.

Re: Pixel 8 Pro

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Post by elif »

Please Google, get rid of the camera bulge.

I've use every single pixel from the Nexus line to the pixel to the 6, and the reason I skipped 7 is that the camera bar on the 6 is soo annoying.

It makes the phone 'negatively compatible with wireless charging, that is to say, when I put it on the phone spot in my car, it makes just enough contact with the wireless charger to go in and out of barely-in-range, causing my phone to heat up and lose battery charge.

Re: Pixel 8 Pro

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Post by zolbrek »

thefz wrote: post #150
Alacart wrote: post #84

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My experience with my own pixel 7 pro and a pixel 5 has been that these devices are an order of magnitude lower in build quality than Samsung or iPhones. I really, really wanted to be happy with them but they've been a never ending source of frustration. My pixel 5 just stopped turning on one day about 2 years in, and my pixel 7 pro had the volume and power buttons fall out about 3 weeks in (not due to a drop, after…

> My experience with my own pixel 7 pro and a pixel 5 has been that these devices are an order of magnitude lower in build quality than Samsung or iPhones. Subjective, I am at my third Pixel phone in six years and I never had an issue.

I didn't have any problems with my 4a or 5, but my 6 is only about a year old and I no longer can use the USB-C port. I have to charge it wirelessly. The battery life is crap as well.

Re: Pixel 8 Pro

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Post by kkielhofner »

kramerger wrote: post #701
amf12 wrote: post #494

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There is a slight difference in how OS updates work in iOS and Android. iOS system apps release with the OS on an annual cycle, but in Android system apps are upgraded independently. Meaning, even without Android OS upgrades the device would get new system apps.

I have to repeat this in every discussion about Android updates :( It is almost as people in these Apple vs Android arguments have no idea how Android actually work...

And in every discussion mentioning Android and Apple people see it as some kind of religious debate. I do not care what anyone does or doesn’t use. I have no stake in this and I don’t see it as some kind of argument.

That said, I do know this and your reply is based on either a misunderstanding of my point or optimism/enthusiasm for some kind of argument you seem to think we’re having.

I’m not talking about the built in calculator app, browser, etc.

I’m talking about the operating system version used and targeted for by applications.

Compare an Android fragmentation chart to an iPhone/iOS fragmentation chart.

It’s painfully obvious device support, updates, etc are still a mess in the Android ecosystem.

Talk to any team deploying Android applications and the first pain point you will hear is how ridiculous the fragmentation is compared to iOS.

It’s gotten better but it’s still a mess. Announcements like this are heading more in the right direction but I think it’s painfully clear that Apple got at least this one thing right from the start in their overall approach.

Re: Pixel 8 Pro

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Post by delfinom »

wilsonnb3 wrote: post #568
dheera wrote: post #540

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You wouldn't notice it, the difference in weight between aluminum and titanium phone shell is negligible compared to the weight of the glass, battery, and PCBs combined. Titanium sounds cool, it sounds luxury, it's a marketing hack. Like "aircraft-grade" "space-grade" aluminum. Nobody is launching their aluminum phones at escape velocity. It's 100% for marketing reasons. I have some titanium spoons, I feel into the t…

> You wouldn't notice it, the difference in weight between aluminum and titanium phone shell is negligible compared to the weight of the glass, battery, and PCBs combined. The previous iPhone Pro's have a stainless steel shell, not aluminum, and the ~30 gram difference is noticeable. Of course, they caused this problem themselves by using stainless steel rather than aluminum like the regular iPhones, but they are non…

30 grams is about the weight of a slice of bread or 5 US quarters (5.6 g each).
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