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Re: Pixel 8 Pro

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Post by QuarterReptile »

maxerickson wrote: post #356
libertine wrote: post #328

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What I don't get are these price tags. My last flagship phone was a Google Nexus 6P where the base model was $499. Amazing phone, too bad after 3 years it had a battery issue but the manufacturer gave me a new one. But the thing is: it was $499. That was the greatest thing about the Nexus lines - good hardware (maybe not the latest SOC) with regular updates and a good OS experience. I miss those phones. Google with t…

I payed $550 for my Pixel 6, ~1 year after the release. Has good hardware, regular updates and a good OS experience. Comparable to ~$450 a year after the release of the 6P. I guess the 6P might be relatively higher end?

The 6P was a very nice device.

Re: Pixel 8 Pro

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Post by Valakas_ »

eptcyka wrote: post #662
jacooper wrote: post #383

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Pixels are supported for 7 years, starting with the 8. P6+ for 5 years Also I'm talking like a couple months later, not a whole year.

Sure, but my perfectly working Pixel 5 is going out of support before the end of the year, I expect the resale value to be 0.

Who the hell cares that one's phone is going out of support? This anal obsession with OS updates for some people is honestly appalling. If the phone doesn't get updated every micro second the sky is falling and the phone becomes a dangerous place. What are you doing on your phone that you need to be on top of OS security so badly? Browsing on the dark web? Going to sketchy sites? Have no password savers or 2nd factor auth? I had a Samsung galaxy S7 until less than a year ago. Had ZERO issues. Now calculate how many years I was out of support. I have now a Pixel 4a5G. I will only trade it for another for the same reason I did with the S7 - when it becomes too slow. Or it explodes, or turns to dust.

Re: Pixel 8 Pro

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Post by pjmlp »

sanswork wrote: post #734
pjmlp wrote: post #722

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Stuck in MS-DOS? As someone that used all their products from MS-DOS, through Windows 3.x days up to switching to Visual C++ 6.0, I clearly remeber code completion, syntax highlighting and macros, three features that Notepad isn't capable of. As easily proven, by reading the manuals available in Bitsavers.

Yeah looks like you're right about at least the syntax highlighting and macros, I can't find any reference to Borland doing code completion back then and what I did find was people from much later complaining that it'd take up to 5 seconds to return suggestions, I used it around 4.5 and really don't remember any of those features though. I guess it was almost 30 years ago now though and I was mostly just interested i…

Besides moving goalposts, Notepad++ still isn't on the same league as Borland's IDEs.

Re: Pixel 8 Pro

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Post by dotancohen »

ryanjshaw wrote: post #690
dotancohen wrote: post #664

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This is not Reddit, you do not need to prefix comments with personal attacks. Nor is karma farmed here by insinuating that you are poor, confused about your gender, or had abusive parents. If by "bubble" you mean my family, nobody but the eight year old has seen a new phone since before the first COVID lockdowns. And the phones that my children use were are purchased with money they earned themselves - including the…

Genuinely curious - how did your 6-8 year old earn an income that didn't come from his parents?

He walks smaller dogs and sells drinks that he makes at the football field near the house. The neighbour lets him pick lemons to sweeten the drinks. He worked for two years to buy the absolute least expensive phone available. I did buy him a case as a gift for achieving his goal, though: $3 on Aliexpress.

I should mention that he also managed to buy two goldfish during this time - also with his own money. So he learned very well to budget, and that each thing that he buys along the way pushed back his goal.

Re: Pixel 8 Pro

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Post by matheusmoreira »

hparadiz wrote: post #248
matheusmoreira wrote: post #133

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You're right about that. Google seems to be a lot more open with its hardware compared to other manufacturers. This attitude apparently even extends towards their laptops. It's certainly something I've come to appreciate about Google.

Why does no one ever consider Sony? They let you unlock the bootloader and the hardware is excellent.

It seems their chipset doesn't have the security features required by the GrapheneOS project such as hardware resistance to brute force attacks.

Re: Pixel 8 Pro

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Post by addicted »

kimbernator wrote: post #178

It's starting to feel silly, having a yearly release cycle for smartphones. So much of this product page is focused on new software functions that may have some vague relationship with the slightly upgraded hardware, but that could mostly be released to existing phones. Every new iPhone, Pixel, or Samsung phone basically claims the camera is marginally better and hey, look at these software features that have very li…

An annual release cycle isn’t for people who bought the phone last year.

It’s for people who bought their phones 2 or 3 years (or even more) ago.

The question is how does this phone compare to the Pixel Pro 6 or 5, not how it compares the 7.

Re: Pixel 8 Pro

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Post by prmoustache »

scarface_74 wrote: post #739
prmoustache wrote: post #688

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you don't mind so much when it is a 50$ phone, a bit more on a 1100$ one. Not that I understand why anyone would pay more than 250$ in a smartphone really.

Well since even the average Android phone’s selling price is $285 the last time I checked, maybe it says more about your lack of insight than anything else?

I don't know, I have had company issued high end phones and apart from better camera quality[1] these devices weren't doing things significantly better than my personal 240$ smartphone.

Also, generally people spend an awful lot of money on things out of vanity and social pressure, regardless of their needs and if it is a good decision. Look at new cars prices and how most vehicles purchases are usually overkill for everyone. The most sold car in the US are the Ford F series , Chevy Silverado and Dodge Ram trucks before a number of high end SUV. Sure people are free to buy whatever they want but a Honda Fit would be enough for large majority of them and be a smarter financial decision[2]. They mostly do it because they can, not because they need.

[1] which has become fairly decent for anyone accross all ranges in the last few years.

[2] I am not sure it is still sold in the US but I could have chosen another example of a smaller and more affordable vehicle.

Re: Pixel 8 Pro

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Post by disgruntledphd2 »

hn_throwaway_99 wrote: post #213
thefz wrote: post #199

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Neither does your case, honestly. My GF is still using a Pixel 3 pro every day.

I'm a Pixel owner, and the phone quality has been stellar IMO, but I would never use any phone that couldn't get security updates - zero days, and sometimes zero days that require no or very little user action, are too common with cell phones. Which is why I think the 7 year support announcement is great news.

This is why I upgraded from 3->6. I guess I'll need to go to 9 or 10 once the updates run out.

Re: Pixel 8 Pro

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Post by 0xcafecafe »

libertine wrote: post #328
Lutzb wrote: post #283

The depreciation between Pixels and iPhones is staggering. Trade-in in Germany on Google Store page: - Pixel 6 Pro 256gb ($999 on release) - 235€ - iPhone 13 Pro 256gb ($1099 on release) - 730€ While I am partial to Googles line of phones (had pretty much every Google phone since the nexus one), the loss of value is something I cannot really ignore any more when deciding to buy a phone.

What I don't get are these price tags. My last flagship phone was a Google Nexus 6P where the base model was $499. Amazing phone, too bad after 3 years it had a battery issue but the manufacturer gave me a new one. But the thing is: it was $499. That was the greatest thing about the Nexus lines - good hardware (maybe not the latest SOC) with regular updates and a good OS experience. I miss those phones. Google with t…

Nexus hardware (LG made) was crap. Both mine and my wife's phones bootlooped at 12-14 months of purchase. Never had such issues with any of the other smartphones we have owned.

Re: Pixel 8 Pro

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Post by trey-jones »

distances wrote: post #671
trey-jones wrote: post #281

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All anecdotal but I would still be using my Pixel 1 if there was software support. 4a5g still going strong for both my wife and me.

4a 5G was my favourite phone since Nokia N9. Fast and lightweight, great photos, fingerprint reader in the back. I switched to Pixel 7 so that my partner can get the 4a 5G to replace their aging device. But this 7 is clearly heavier and while a good device, I just don't like it quite as much.

I'll be really disappointed when I have to abandon the backside fingerprint reader. I've gotten really used to it.
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