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Apple declares its $17,000 solid-gold watch officially obsolete

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tpush wrote: post #68
throwaway10965 wrote: post #31

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So how should a company that makes tech that people want while being as environmentally friendly as possible present itself? What other company is more environmentally conservative while making the tech that people want (for example Xiaomi, Huawei, etc) than Apple? "Don't make it" is not a good answer. People buy it, so someone will make it. And I'm happy that Apple educates their customers about the environmental im…

Apple creates the want in the first place or amplifies existing want. That is what ultimately drives consumption-based pollution, so they are directly to blame.

I disagree completely. People wanted this for a long time, now it's available, that's it. People usually claim that Apple didn't invent anything new...

Re: Apple declares its $17,000 solid-gold watch officially obsolete

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yccs27 wrote: post #43
throwaway10965 wrote: post #31

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So how should a company that makes tech that people want while being as environmentally friendly as possible present itself? What other company is more environmentally conservative while making the tech that people want (for example Xiaomi, Huawei, etc) than Apple? "Don't make it" is not a good answer. People buy it, so someone will make it. And I'm happy that Apple educates their customers about the environmental im…

"People buy it, so someone will make it" doesn't apply when they're at the size of Apple. They absolutely make things that no one else could make if they didn't.

Xiaomi, Huawei and Samsung certainly could, and probably more.

Re: Apple declares its $17,000 solid-gold watch officially obsolete

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Post by whywhywhywhy »

throwaway10965 wrote: post #31
whywhywhywhy wrote: post #10

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It’s not the outrage the object is obsolete. It’s the outrage it’s obsolete while making marketing material like the ‘Mother Earth’ movie. There’s a huge disconnect with what’s being said and the day to day actions. Bringing disposable objects like this and AirPods into the world is environmentally abhorrent. Which you know I’m actually fine with for the trade off but just don’t lecture me about how much you care whe…

So how should a company that makes tech that people want while being as environmentally friendly as possible present itself? What other company is more environmentally conservative while making the tech that people want (for example Xiaomi, Huawei, etc) than Apple? "Don't make it" is not a good answer. People buy it, so someone will make it. And I'm happy that Apple educates their customers about the environmental im…

>So how should a company that makes tech that people want while being as environmentally friendly as possible present itself?

Not with self indulgent high budget folly like ‘Mother Nature’

I never said don’t make the objects I actually said I’m fine with how abhorrent a 3 plastic battery coffins that are AirPods are for how good the experience is.

Just don’t make marketing material like ‘Mother Earth’ when you’re shipping those products.

Re: Apple declares its $17,000 solid-gold watch officially obsolete

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Post by aziaziazi »

hutzlibu wrote: post #58
jraph wrote: post #56

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With this mindset, we would risk the rich to be completely free of criticism. They are already the decision makers not taking the right decisions for the environment. They are the ones choosing not to be on my side. We need to spend a lot of efforts fighting their carelessness and bad decision-making. I want to be able to mock them. (though I don't usually do it, it does not bring joy in me, mostly bitterness). If so…

What is the environmental problem with a gold watch? Aside from a little extra effort in manufacturing, I fail to see it. Jetting everywhere for the sake of it, yes, this is worth critizicing( and mocking), but a golden luxory is harmless I think and not worth a class warfare.

Perhaps because the mining industry for gold is one of the dirtier ?

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jraph wrote: post #61
hutzlibu wrote: post #58

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What is the environmental problem with a gold watch? Aside from a little extra effort in manufacturing, I fail to see it. Jetting everywhere for the sake of it, yes, this is worth critizicing( and mocking), but a golden luxory is harmless I think and not worth a class warfare.

Note that I mostly have issues with hardware released in 2015 being out of support (in this discussion). The effects of gold watches on the environment has to be anecdotal. Somebody focusing so much on status so as to need to spend this much money is merely out of my understanding. Yes, it's some form of intolerance on my side and I fully admit it. Now, gold is both rare and needed, and implies mining, and possibly u…

"Somebody focusing so much on status so as to need to spend this much money is merely out of my understanding."

Out of mine either. But I accept that other people have other values and rather focus on the things in common. In this case, fighting for things to last.

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