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Re: Pixel 8 Pro

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A lot of people are on 2-year payment plans through their provider and just switch every time.

Yes, but those plans cost extra compared to one that doesn't have this feature. (And don't many plans come with some sort of discount, if you don't upgrade your phone?)

Not in every country/region, unfortunately. In my case it's cheaper to upgrade my phone and sell my previous phone than get a BYOB device by a significant margin.

Re: Pixel 8 Pro

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Agreed, I moved away from Pixels because of size... I'm hoping for a Pixel Mini someday

I moved away from Android entirely because of size. Currently on an iPhone 13 Mini, which is riiight at the very upper edge of a reasonable size. I would love to go back to Android if only someone reputable would make a reasonably-sized phone.

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Re: Pixel 8 Pro

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6.7 inch screen. My Pixel 5 is already big. This one is an inch bigger in my hand and in my pockets. Price increase. 875€ in Europe. The Pixel 5 was 630€. Do you really get 40% more phone?

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Re: Pixel 8 Pro

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It's funny because if they did not release a new phone every year, the old phones would be useful for longer. I recently had to replace my iPhone 7s plus because it was getting so slow I sometimes could not get the camera to open as it loaded the system down too much. This was despite the fact that the system said my battery was not degraded (it had been replaced with Apple Care a couple of times). Of course when it…

> And then Apple made their OS more heavy weight every year until my phone slowed to a crawl. I mean, it is a bit unfair against Apple - some of the reason behind the OS getting more heavyweight is actually backporting new features in 7 year’s distance, many which actually has dedicated hardware in case of the more modern lineup. Also, there is a big aspect which is independent of Apple: every app is getting more and…

No, it's not unfair at all. Apple's gotten busted for this exact thing and had to shell out $500 million in damages.

https://www.cnet.com/tech/mobile/apple-to-start-paying-out-5...

> I really have a hard time with a realistic business model that would be significantly better.

Well this one might be good for business, but as you can see, it is extremely bad for the individual.

Re: Pixel 8 Pro

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The aspect ratio makes a huge difference. Back then phones were still mostly 16:9. My Nexus 6 still feels massive compared to modern phones.

Because it is still massive. The 6" Nexus 6 is 3.3in wide whereas the 6.7" Pixel 8 Pro is only 3" wide. Even omitting the bezels, the Nexus 6 has a screen width of 2.94" vs. the 8 Pro's 2.75"

You've highlighted exactly what the comment you were replying to was talking about, the aspect ratio is much different. The Pixel 8 Pro has a 6.7" screen vs the 6" on nexus 6, despite being 10% narrower.

Re: Pixel 8 Pro

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It's starting to feel silly, having a yearly release cycle for smartphones. So much of this product page is focused on new software functions that may have some vague relationship with the slightly upgraded hardware, but that could mostly be released to existing phones. Every new iPhone, Pixel, or Samsung phone basically claims the camera is marginally better and hey, look at these software features that have very li…

Unfortunately the world is filled with people like my fried who, without fail, buys - for cash, not as part of a contract renewal - the max spec iPhone available every year. One for him, one for his wife. Sell the old ones, or give them to family. Revenue like that is too hard for these companies to pass up. And so we get this waste.

> And so we get this waste.

Wait. If they are making phones that get bought up every year because of people like your friend, then where is the waste?

Re: Pixel 8 Pro

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Try this: don’t upgrade your phone for five years. The annual incremental release cycle is fine—what’s silly is thinking phones need to be upgraded every year.

> Try this: don’t upgrade your phone for five years. Try that and monitor your quality of life. See if you can avoid therapy. It's not that people think they need to upgrade their phones every year, or two, or three. It's that the phones are designed for short usable life on hardware side, and on software side, neither first-party nor third-party developers give a damn about performance.

Still rockin' my 6s and it is quite peppy. I take 4k videos relatively often.

Re: Pixel 8 Pro

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It's starting to feel silly, having a yearly release cycle for smartphones. So much of this product page is focused on new software functions that may have some vague relationship with the slightly upgraded hardware, but that could mostly be released to existing phones. Every new iPhone, Pixel, or Samsung phone basically claims the camera is marginally better and hey, look at these software features that have very li…

The price system is how our society allocates resources. The fact that people are allocating their own resources to buy one -- without any perverse incentives or being compelled, indicates it's not wasteful to them.

A better example of waste is when local governments funds things which people don't use.

I think the root of this sentiment is misunderstanding or lack of satisfaction at the system level.

Re: Pixel 8 Pro

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It's starting to feel silly, having a yearly release cycle for smartphones. So much of this product page is focused on new software functions that may have some vague relationship with the slightly upgraded hardware, but that could mostly be released to existing phones. Every new iPhone, Pixel, or Samsung phone basically claims the camera is marginally better and hey, look at these software features that have very li…

But phones are manufactured regardless, so why not let the people who are currently in the market for a new device get something current? The yearly release cycle isn't meant to be kept up with every year, in fact I think that that notion is so hilariously out of touch basically everywhere except the US (and a small international wealthy elite elsewhere) that it would be ridiculed. Remember, the global median per-cap…

There's new cars each year, but hardly anyone is switching yearly, right?

Re: Pixel 8 Pro

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It's starting to feel silly, having a yearly release cycle for smartphones. So much of this product page is focused on new software functions that may have some vague relationship with the slightly upgraded hardware, but that could mostly be released to existing phones. Every new iPhone, Pixel, or Samsung phone basically claims the camera is marginally better and hey, look at these software features that have very li…

I've started thinking about cars like this too. We shouldn't have yearly models, it's an absolute waste

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