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Re: Pixel 8 Pro

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Post by nsriv »

krzyk wrote: post #95

I wonder if this time they allow you to take that 50Mpix photos, or are they magically transformed to 12Mpix again. Pixel 7 Pro also had 50Mpix sensor.

The Pro gives you access to full res RAW images from each sensor which are all 48mp (on the Pro, not sure about regular), not accounting for digital crops, which are 12mp center binned.

As a sidebar, you're all over this thread with negatively framed and inaccurate musings on features, so I'd recommend you give the product page or critical reviews a more serious look rather than letting other people do the work for you by correcting.

Re: Pixel 8 Pro

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Post by barbazoo »

cobertos wrote: post #211
slashtab wrote: post #182

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's your choice but it's not safe.

Is there any way to make it safe? I've bought newer pixels and they are a downgrade all around for me. I just want security updates and the ability to browse on-device files/do file management (newer Androids keep restricting further and further)

Possibly https://wiki.lineageos.org/devices/walleye/

Re: Pixel 8 Pro

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Post by nsriv »

SketchySeaBeast wrote: post #231
willseth wrote: post #74

Is anyone else confused by the inclusion of a temperature sensor? Was there a demo that explains why anyone would want this? What?

Seems to me to be a holdover from 2020. Interesting that Google assumed we'd still be measuring temps at this point.

This was my first thought as well. Curious to see if it functions similarly or within a certain tolerance of one of those much more expensive FLIR temp gauges you see laptop reviewers use. MKBHD video showed that it asks for 5cm distance from object being measured and for you to tap to select type of material, which notably excludes skin temp.

Re: Pixel 8 Pro

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Post by triceratops »

kimbernator wrote: post #178

It's starting to feel silly, having a yearly release cycle for smartphones. So much of this product page is focused on new software functions that may have some vague relationship with the slightly upgraded hardware, but that could mostly be released to existing phones. Every new iPhone, Pixel, or Samsung phone basically claims the camera is marginally better and hey, look at these software features that have very li…

You may not buy a new phone every year. But there's always someone who's buying a new phone right now. Why should they have to buy hardware that's potentially almost 5 years old?

Re: Pixel 8 Pro

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Post by kimbernator »

chaostheory wrote: post #284
kimbernator wrote: post #178

It's starting to feel silly, having a yearly release cycle for smartphones. So much of this product page is focused on new software functions that may have some vague relationship with the slightly upgraded hardware, but that could mostly be released to existing phones. Every new iPhone, Pixel, or Samsung phone basically claims the camera is marginally better and hey, look at these software features that have very li…

The status quo is great. You have yearly releases that are stable and allow anyone to upgrade without fear of the new model coming out like with traditional video game consoles. No one is forcing you to buy anything you don’t want. Also, the OS and apps need to take advantage of new hardware, so it’s not a surprise if your seven year old phone becomes slower. If you don’t like the status quo then I would go with a no…

I think it's interesting that you cite video game consoles as a negative. I'd argue the opposite, I think phones should be more like them.

With video game consoles, you have a single device where micro-optimizations are constantly done, new features are added, and all software can be purpose-built to work really well on that specific hardware. All of that for ~7 years means a really fantastic user experience and a massive community of people that have collectively worked through solutions to common problems and forced the company's hand on defects (joycon drift, for example). It also means tons of high-quality hardware-specific accessories, both from the company that made the console and from third parties.

Re: Pixel 8 Pro

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Post by wunderland »

If you’re really set on Android, I would buy a year old phone (so probably a “Pixel 7 Pro” if that’s a thing? Not sure when Google last changed their naming scheme).

A year old iPhone goes for maybe €100-200 less than the new model, but last year’s Android phone is now basically half price.

Re: Pixel 8 Pro

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Post by virtualwhys »

sct202 wrote: post #219
duffyjp wrote: post #175

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My wife's 5a was bit by a common "screen" completely dies for no reason bug. It's more like the phone is stone dead, but that's how Google describes it. Even though she was well past the 1 year warranty they replaced it free under a special warranty program due to how common it is. And by replaced it, I mean they sent a different phone that had lots of wear and she lost all her non-cloud data.

The 5A's have some kind of mass motherboard defect and the warranty was quietly increased to 2 years. I know 2 people who recently went thru a bunch of hurdles (must go to Asurion/ubreakifix to get special request submitted) and got replacement phones sent outside of the extended warranty, because both the phones failed days after the 2 year mark.

My 5a's camera routinely crashes the phone and reboots when attempting to take a photo in bright light conditions (e.g. in broad daylight) -- it's infuriating, google says the phone is out of warranty so apparently I'm SOL.

With Asahi Linux I'm now considering going back to all-Apple hardware after 12 years away.

Re: Pixel 8 Pro

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Post by kkielhofner »

redbell wrote: post #330

7 years of support is probably the single, most noticeable improvement in the Android ecosystem in years now. Also, the temperature sensor in the Pro, if it worked as expected, should be a cool addition.

Finally.

The planned obsolescence conversation seems to revolve around Apple (the only self-interested greedy company on the planet according to the detractors) but they hold the record for software updates on smartphones - 10 years for the iPhone 5s. Here we are, in 2023, and Google is coming around to seven years of support. Apple has done at least seven since 2013.

In any case I applaud this move and at least five years should be mandated by law. I wonder how many "random manufacturer drops a cheap Android on the market and walks away on software and support" Android devices there are sitting in landfills across the globe. Of course there are plenty of Apple devices as well but it's not due to lack of support.

Re: Pixel 8 Pro

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Post by nilespotter »

ForkMeOnTinder wrote: post #29
nicbou wrote: post #12

6.7 inch screen. My Pixel 5 is already big. This one is an inch bigger in my hand and in my pockets. Price increase. 875€ in Europe. The Pixel 5 was 630€. Do you really get 40% more phone?

Interestingly the non-Pro pixels have been trending in the right direction for size. The Pixel 6 is 6.4" The Pixel 7 is 6.3" The Pixel 8 is 6.2" If the trend continues we only have to wait 3 more years for a < 6" phone

I switched from Pixel 6 to Pixel 7a because the 7a size is _perfect_
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