Is anyone else confused by the inclusion of a temperature sensor? Was there a demo that explains why anyone would want this? What?
Seems to me to be a holdover from 2020. Interesting that Google assumed we'd still be measuring temps at this point.
Pixel 8 Pro
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> I am at my third Pixel phone in six years and I never had an issue. Don't you think that three phones in six years is the issue? I'm still on 2019 Galaxy S10, i.e. fourth year, single phone. The hardware is still in great condition, no malfunction of anything.
But now you're stuck with no more security updates, but Samsung has gotten much better at that as well recently.
I don't really mind; it concerns only updates of core system, not apps. Apps are still updated, so I get updated browser, mail and other apps, that could be attacked; they are not locked to the system. It makes the attack surface vastly smaller.
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Not everyone lives on the same upgrade cycle, you can, but you're not supposed to change your phone every year. With iPhone 15, the majority of people upgrading would be 12 and older device owners.
I agree. I find upgrading less frequently makes the upgrade so much more significant. Upgrading yearly would leave you complaining and wondering what's new. I know people who lease a new car every 3 years. And often, if there's no redesign, they're getting a nearly identical vehicle. It's strange. Whereas, I upgrade my car every 10 years, and am thrilled with all the improvements.
This is fine and good, but the problem is that once your phone is no longer the newest thing, the experience takes a hit because there's little incentive to actually support your device anymore.
Re: Pixel 8 Pro
#235It's odd to me that my Pixel 7 Pro is worth less in trade-in value than iPhone 11. I'm sure there are reasons, but it stings a little.
Aftermarket prices for Android devices are lower than iOS across the board. They depreciate faster.
Re: Pixel 8 Pro
#236It's starting to feel silly, having a yearly release cycle for smartphones. So much of this product page is focused on new software functions that may have some vague relationship with the slightly upgraded hardware, but that could mostly be released to existing phones. Every new iPhone, Pixel, or Samsung phone basically claims the camera is marginally better and hey, look at these software features that have very li…
Nobody is demanding that you buy a new smartphone every year. Modern smartphones have 3-5 years of security/bug updates and the batteries no longer degrade as fast as they used to.
Re: Pixel 8 Pro
#237Re: Pixel 8 Pro
#238It's starting to feel silly, having a yearly release cycle for smartphones. So much of this product page is focused on new software functions that may have some vague relationship with the slightly upgraded hardware, but that could mostly be released to existing phones. Every new iPhone, Pixel, or Samsung phone basically claims the camera is marginally better and hey, look at these software features that have very li…
Normally I agree with you, but I don't think that's the case this year at least. The on-device ML chip (Tensor G3) is a legit difference-maker. A lot of the ML features they are rolling out wouldn't be possible on older hardware. You could do the non-realtime portions in the cloud, but the realtime audio cleanup wouldn't work for example (way too much latency). Also, personally I much prefer on-device. I frequently have spotty data connections so it's very disruptive when stuff relies on cloud connectivity.
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Why do people expect to be blown away every year? Most people upgrade their phone every 2-3 years. This isn't the early smartphone days where there was tons of room for improvement. Moore's law has gotten increasingly closer to ending, screens are as pixel dense as necessary, and people generally are satisfied with the capabilities of their phone. Starting around 2017 smartphones as we know them peaked and so they ju…
There is tons of room for innovation in phones, but most companies don't want to risk deviating from what consumers think they want (just like Hollywood movies). I'm sure the HN crowd could come together and form a list of 100 ideas that are truly innovative in the phone space. However, these ideas are quite risky to bring to market. Some ideas: 1. Super Amazing Sound playback (next level) 2. Rollable display 3. More…
Yeah but those are all worthless for selling a phone.
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1. it's not a vote, it's a market. 2. Pixel devices set the standard for every other android phones. the coverage is legit.
How do pixels set the standard any differenty then samsungs?
Samsungs are non-standard by default. They take the AOSP experience which Pixel fully embraces then they hack in cute fonts, water drop overlays, and replace the default tooling that comes with Android to build their samsung experience.
Pixel drives and creates the innovation like cut-out display support, notification APIs that support multi-media control for instance across multiple apps, sound multi-plexing between apps, how calls interact with multimedia apps, foldable display support, app switching, fingerprint unlock support, the android API, etc.
Samsung takes that, twists it into their own.
In that essence, Pixel is the standard experience that Android is meant to be whereas Samsung is a customized experience built on the backbone of Android and in some ways in opposition to Android Open Source Project & Pixel Launcher's ideals.
Samsung android phones are the Ubuntu whereas Pixel is Google's Debian.