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Re: The Best Birth Control In The World Is For Men

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Post by pilgrim689 »

antihero wrote: post #170
X-Istence wrote: post #169

Earlier quoted context omitted.

While putting forceps into my scrotum also gives me the willies I am more than willing to get the procedure done. I think this is more a secondary defense. For me personally it wouldn't replace condoms (1, I have never had issues with them, and 2, STD's can still be transmitted) unless in a committed relationship, but also to make sure that if something goes wrong with the female birth control, that there is a second…

I am 23 years old, I'd consider myself rational about most things, but this scares me absolutely shitless. I know that's dumb, but if someone like me is made extremely nervous about screwing with my method of reproducing, then that can indicate what other people are feeling. Secondly, I see orgasm as a highly pressurised, highly tuned, intense thing. It feels like I'm straining every part of my balls to the limit whe…

If it's of any consolation, they don't cut open the whole scrotum or anything. They make a pinhole (that's tiny!) incision, and reach for the vas deferens just enough to inject it with a syringe.

And I don't think it does anything to make you feel like your balls are "frail". So far the only side-effects I've read about are a possibility of swelling for 1 week after the operation. Then, you're back to your old non-frail-balls self!

Re: The Best Birth Control In The World Is For Men

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Post by pilgrim689 »

salsakran wrote: post #70
kisielk wrote: post #60

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Not sure why some guys have so many reservations about this, it sounds like a simple and reversible procedure with a quick recovery. I'd get it if it were available in Canada.

Uhm, it involves cutting open your scrotum. The idea that people will casually do this is ... hilarious.

The scrotum isn't "cut open". It's a pinhole-size incision.

Re: The Best Birth Control In The World Is For Men

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Post by pilgrim689 »

salsakran wrote: post #70
kisielk wrote: post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not sure why some guys have so many reservations about this, it sounds like a simple and reversible procedure with a quick recovery. I'd get it if it were available in Canada.

Uhm, it involves cutting open your scrotum. The idea that people will casually do this is ... hilarious.

The scrotum isn't "cut open". It's a pinhole-size incision.

Re: The Best Birth Control In The World Is For Men

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Post by pilgrim689 »

salsakran wrote: post #70
kisielk wrote: post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not sure why some guys have so many reservations about this, it sounds like a simple and reversible procedure with a quick recovery. I'd get it if it were available in Canada.

Uhm, it involves cutting open your scrotum. The idea that people will casually do this is ... hilarious.

The scrotum isn't "cut open". It's a pinhole-size incision.

Re: The Best Birth Control In The World Is For Men

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Post by DanBC »

rdl wrote: post #186
tomp wrote: post #168

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It can't be that low... How do men (heterosexuals) get infected then?

IV drug use is a major vector still. Also, HIV transmission is more likely with other STDs. If you have open syphlitic sores on your penis, you are more likely to contract HIV.

Not forgetting that HIV increases the risk of getting those other STIs too.

There's been some speculation about why rates of HIV vary so widely across Africa.

(http://www.irinnews.org/Report/91305/AFRICA-Risky-sex-does-n...)

Unsafe injection is the most efficient way to transmit the virus. It's scary that so many injections in the developing world are unsafe. (UNICEF say "16 billion injections are administered each year, of which 90 percent are for curative purposes; 50 percent of the total number of injections are unsafe.")

(http://www.irinnews.org/Report/85278/AFRICA-Poor-syringe-hyg...)

The amount of money needed to make a difference is probably (relatively) small. But changing behaviour is hard.

(http://www.path.org/our-work/safe-injection.php)

Re: The Best Birth Control In The World Is For Men

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Post by king_jester »

MartinCron wrote: post #68
streptomycin wrote: post #56

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In theory, maybe. In practice, no. Condoms are way out of fashion these days among the young sexually active crowd.

That's a horrifying thought. I'm planning on doing "the talk" with my children starting with a latex condom and working outwards. "Sex is a beautiful thing shared between two people and a latex condom from a reliable brand"...

Having the talk is great, but don't forget that some people have latex allergy and latex condoms can be uncomfortable. Of course, there are a great many materials for condoms, so all is not lost.

Re: The Best Birth Control In The World Is For Men

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Post by streptomycin »

Alex3917 wrote: post #96
streptomycin wrote: post #56

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In theory, maybe. In practice, no. Condoms are way out of fashion these days among the young sexually active crowd.

"In 2009, the percentage of sexually active high school students who reported using a condom the most recent time they had sexual intercourse was 61%, up from 46% in 1991. In 2009, 69% of high school boys and 54% of high school girls used a condom at last sexual intercourse." http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/hus/hus10.pdf#073

I was thinking more about 20-somethings than high schoolers. I'm far too removed from high school to know what they do, but I'd guess it's not as easy for them to get birth control due to their parents. But if you pick up a 25 year old girl from a bar and bring her home, she's probably on the pill and she won't want to use a condom.

Re: The Best Birth Control In The World Is For Men

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Post by agateform »

X-Istence wrote: post #169
silentscope wrote: post #33

I do see a market with this, but it's got a lot of problems you'd need to navigate. Nothing a smart team couldn't figure out. Most of the time, men trust women when they say they're on birth control. Women get pregnant--a big deal. It's less likely (but not unheard of) that a woman wants to get pregnant and then lies about birth control. Men, on the other hand, would love to not use a condom. And men don't get pregna…

While putting forceps into my scrotum also gives me the willies I am more than willing to get the procedure done. I think this is more a secondary defense. For me personally it wouldn't replace condoms (1, I have never had issues with them, and 2, STD's can still be transmitted) unless in a committed relationship, but also to make sure that if something goes wrong with the female birth control, that there is a second…

>There are liars the world over. I don't think that is necessarily a trait that is just for men. I've know quite a few guys in high school that had unprotected sex because their girlfriend was on the pill end up with a baby because that is the way she thought she could keep him forever.

A friend's x-girlfriend got pregnant because she poked a hole in the condom without him knowing. If you are male and don't want to have kids, make sure you use your own condoms. Woman has many more options to avoid pregnancy, man has one shot with the condom (AFAIK vasectomy can be permanent).

I think this type of birth control has the potential of lowering paternity fraud since man will know the child is not his. It also reduces unwanted pregnancy when woman poke hole in condom or other condom issues.

This birth control for man is great news and I hope to see more male birth control options in the future.

Re: The Best Birth Control In The World Is For Men

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Post by tomjen3 »

silentscope wrote: post #33

I do see a market with this, but it's got a lot of problems you'd need to navigate. Nothing a smart team couldn't figure out. Most of the time, men trust women when they say they're on birth control. Women get pregnant--a big deal. It's less likely (but not unheard of) that a woman wants to get pregnant and then lies about birth control. Men, on the other hand, would love to not use a condom. And men don't get pregna…

It is not the business problem if some guy lies to get sex (welcome to the human world). And there is a market among men with many sexual partners to get this procedure -- every man fears that she lies about the pill.

Doesn't mean you can't market it to couples too, of course.

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