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Re: Pixel 8 Pro

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Post by coldpie »

j10u wrote: post #41
nicbou wrote: post #12

6.7 inch screen. My Pixel 5 is already big. This one is an inch bigger in my hand and in my pockets. Price increase. 875€ in Europe. The Pixel 5 was 630€. Do you really get 40% more phone?

Agreed, I moved away from Pixels because of size... I'm hoping for a Pixel Mini someday

I moved away from Android entirely because of size. Currently on an iPhone 13 Mini, which is riiight at the very upper edge of a reasonable size. I would love to go back to Android if only someone reputable would make a reasonably-sized phone.

Re: Pixel 8 Pro

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Post by garba_dlm »

I will never get used to this geo-determined internet (i cannot see the phone's page without a vpn)

is like we developed this new amazing inter-connection network. and then due to politics, decided it was much too good... far too much freedom without national barriers, so we've gone on to reintroduce these barriers.

as if the internet was restricted by the same geographical (physical) realities that we commonly encounter.

but nothing will ever be as dumb as the re-introducing material scarcity (DRM schemes) back into the 'cyberspace' just so a few can keep making money out of what they already did; possibly for several generations of descendants

Re: Pixel 8 Pro

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Post by afavour »

sbjs wrote: post #28
sbjs wrote: post #4

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These downvotes for a genuine question (-3 points at time of writing) are why I don't participate in HN tbh. And maybe they're exclusively for my parenthetical request for feedback, in which case, still, like, come on guys. Those downvotes are why my posts and comments always shadowbanned in the first place. And they all started with downvotes for genuine questions. The typical response from HN is "I dunno, maybe pos…

(I imagine you did get some downvotes for your request for feedback because it's off-topic)

Your request is honestly a little difficult for anyone to answer. "As a long-time Apple user I've long suspected that despite the public specs, Android phones are crap. Can any long-term Android users confirm for me whether their phone is crap?"

If there is a long-term Android user out there who finds Android phones to be crap I'd assume they would have long since switch to a different type of phone.

Re: Pixel 8 Pro

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Post by mcsniff »

nicbou wrote: post #12

6.7 inch screen. My Pixel 5 is already big. This one is an inch bigger in my hand and in my pockets. Price increase. 875€ in Europe. The Pixel 5 was 630€. Do you really get 40% more phone?

Been holding on to my Pixel 5 with GrapheneOS for a while hoping a smaller Pixel is available.

I might consider the non-Pro since it now has a 120Hz screen and is smaller.

Re: Pixel 8 Pro

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Post by Tade0 »

ForkMeOnTinder wrote: post #29
nicbou wrote: post #12

6.7 inch screen. My Pixel 5 is already big. This one is an inch bigger in my hand and in my pockets. Price increase. 875€ in Europe. The Pixel 5 was 630€. Do you really get 40% more phone?

Interestingly the non-Pro pixels have been trending in the right direction for size. The Pixel 6 is 6.4" The Pixel 7 is 6.3" The Pixel 8 is 6.2" If the trend continues we only have to wait 3 more years for a < 6" phone

I remember when such phones were in a different size category named "phablets".

Re: Pixel 8 Pro

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Post by Scene_Cast2 »

sho_hn wrote: post #30
Scene_Cast2 wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I know GN2 might have been just an arbitrary example, but it looks like GN2 didn't make it to the 8 pro (contrary to the rumors).

Oh, do you have a source? The pre-release coverage still talked a lot about the GN2 even days ago, and to me it was more or less the defining new HW drop in this phone. It's a lot less exciting without a sensor upgrade and would be mostly playing catch-up otherwise.

Not the strongest sources, but:

https://www.gsmarena.com/newscomm-60107.php - comments tipped me off; then googling for "pixel 8 GN2; last hour" gets me links like https://www.androidauthority.com/google-pixel-8-pro-release-... where the cache has the reference but the current page doesn't.

Re: Pixel 8 Pro

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Post by hobofan »

sbjs wrote: post #4

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I own a Pixel 7 Pro (and owned the Pixel 6 Pro), and I regularly have iPhones of friends/family in my hands.

Especially for the flagship Android phones like the Pixel Pros, I really don't think there is a noticable difference. They have excellent build quality, camera quality is so similar to iPhones that I couldn't tell which one is better, and on the software side I think it's a matter of being used to it (where I'm a lot more comfortable on Android).

Re: Pixel 8 Pro

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Post by patrickmcnamara »

xtirpation wrote: post #48
nicbou wrote: post #12

6.7 inch screen. My Pixel 5 is already big. This one is an inch bigger in my hand and in my pockets. Price increase. 875€ in Europe. The Pixel 5 was 630€. Do you really get 40% more phone?

Are those numbers normalized against inflation?

Those numbers are inflation.

Re: Pixel 8 Pro

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Post by alephxyz »

syncbehind wrote: post #32

I wonder if the audio magic eraser feature will make it to older pixel phones. That and the best-shot one seemed very interesting. It also seems very arbitrarily limited to the newer ones, 7/7pro seem like they should be more than capable of driving these features. Is software limiting going to be the norm going forward for phones? Because, I don't think this is worth upgrading from last years phones from a hardware…

They've already been limiting some of the "AI" image editing features to newer pixels (but installing the same app package on older phones works just fine).

Re: Pixel 8 Pro

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Post by 12907835202 »

ireallywantthat wrote: post #6

Too expensive for my tastes. Give me 380USD phone which lasts for next 5-8 years, feels premium, is repairable, camera is decent, replaceable battery, OS is just Vanilla Android with atleast 5 years(more years of Software updates would be welcome) of Software Updates and when you can't provide it, make it hackable enough to install Custom ROMs.

No company will ever make a 5-8 year phone at that price. That's $47-76 a year.

People pay that amount or more for apps that help manage their fantasy football team...

Comparitively that would be an insane bargain for a phone and it's absurd for that to be your requirement.

I do wonder what the right price point would be for a subscription model. At the moment the average replacement time is every 2 years which would be the equivalent of $30 a month basic and $40 for pro.

Could they afford $30 a month sub but you got the yearly upgrades rather than every 2 years?

If the price of the parts is quite low compared to the R&D that could be feasible.

But I actually have no idea.

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