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That's not a good argument, I'm sorry. A lot of people spent time and effort designing and creating something; credit, or reference is the least one could do. If it's not done, even in a comment inside the HTML... well, it would be nice if it were :)
Not a good argument for what?
(I'll show myself out.)
Douglas Hofstader, the author of Godel Escher Bach, thought the task of creating fonts could only be solved with general AI. https://www.m-u-l-t-i-p-l-i-c-i-t-y.org/media/pdf/Metafont-M... The Letter Spirit project aims to model artistic creativity by designing stylistically uniform "gridfonts" (typefaces limited to a grid).
Well, GPT is a general AI.
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Not this agin /eyeroll It’s not illegal for a human to look through 71,000 fonts and then creat their own. It can’t be illegal for a human to use a robot to look through the fonts for them.
> it can't be... Oh boy it totally can. I'm not saying it it, but it totally can. I feel many people (at least on HN) treat laws like programming. There are some similarities, but programmers like to eliminate arbitrary special cases, while lawmakers love to create arbitrary special cases. It's like their only job, really.
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Huh, I never gave that sentence much thought, and I guess I never realized it conveniently covered the whole alphabet. It makes so much more sense now!
I liked the one that Apple used to use in the MacOS 7/8 era: “How razorback-jumping frogs level six piqued gymnasts!” (Might be slightly off but its unique enough that I remembered it at least 20 years after it disappeared from MacOS).
Bouncy squad eking prize with pelvic flexion jump.
My Fox News TV quip? Big jerks add zilch!
View half a dozen squid & peg just six inky crumbs.
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That's amazing. One of my favorite things to do with copilot is to comment something like "//white arrow pointing right" and then start "<svg" and have it complete it. If it doesn't get it right the first time I update my comment. Saves me time searching for the right SVG and digging through free but really paid image sites.
And it saves you having to credit anyone, win-win!
Consider a human being designing a scifi styled font; how do they get started? By opening references, of course! To examples of other scifi styled fonts that they do not have the rights to, nor will they credit.
Also consider another human being designing a scifi styled font; but instead one that is not allowed to reference the work of anybody else, as some argue machine learning models ought to do. This human being has no references to open, they have not seen any scifi media, be it movies or posters or fonts or anything else. How can they create something like this without any reference at all to it?
If a human being creates a scifi font, and their inspiration is not references to other scifi fonts but instead, I don't know, a general concept of the "vibe" they got from watching Blade Runner, must they credit Blade Runner for the inspiration? Must they pay the owner of the Blade Runner rights for their use of ideas from Blade Runner?
I found a few months ago that the gpt-4 code interpreter is capable of converting a black and white png of a glyph to an svg https://twitter.com/lfegray/status/1678787763905126400 It would be cool to combine a script like the one gpt-4 gave me with an image generation model to generate fonts. The approach from this blog post is way more interesting though. On a separate note it reminds me of this suckerpinch video :)…
>I found a few months ago that the gpt-4 code interpreter is capable of converting a black and white png of a glyph to an svg :) Easy there, let's not make all the naysayers who say it only just predicts plausible words sweat. Your phrasing almost makes it sound like you're sharing a clear example of it analyzing and completing a complex task correctly, while perfectly understanding what it's doing. Perhaps we should…
I am a huge proponent of machine learning but these transformer architectures really _are_ just predicting the next token (word) that fits in.
Yes, it can perform basic (and even seemingly complex logic), but this is purely because for the string "What is one plus one?" the next token with the highest score would be "Two."
It's not analysing a task in that it's "ideating", it's simply generating the next best token. That's literally how the transformer architecture works.
Of course it can convert something, it's going from png image data->arbitrary tokens->svg tokens. It's still a relatively linear process. I bet if you dig into that project it'll still be doing it token by token/chunk by chunk.
I can't wait until we do see a genuinely nonlinear model though, where it can ideate using a cloud of higher dimensional non-linguistic tokens to represent a thought process or idea.
Granted, I do think that these models are in many ways still doing what parts of our brains do; I think people's resistance to some of these models is in large part an unconscious reaction to thinking that our meaty brains are "special" and that we'll never achieve consciousness in a machine.
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Not this agin /eyeroll It’s not illegal for a human to look through 71,000 fonts and then creat their own. It can’t be illegal for a human to use a robot to look through the fonts for them.
It depends on exactly what is learned from looking through them. If you end up copying shapes and segments then there are possible grounds for a lawsuit. If you’re able to determine the rules to make a good font from your analysis, however, then nothing is stopping you from applying them.
How is it possible to create something 100% unique when it's meant to fill a particular genre? The genre exists because it's a group of similar things.
OK, that's cool, but those fonts are all terrible. The serifs are all different sizes and shapes, sometimes on the same letter. The kerning looks like a random walk. The stroke widths are all over the place, and/or the hinting is busted. Now, that said, it's pretty amazing that this works at all, but it'll take some pretty specific training on a model to get something that can compete with a human made font that's cu…