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Career Advice (2013)

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#81

The Stanford prison experiments are pretty well debunked at this point

Were they debunked? I thought that they only had some methodological mistake which made them inconclusive.

> Zimbardo and his assistants ordered the guards to become cruel, and, moreover, that guards and prisoners alike knew what Zimbardo was trying to prove and were eager to help. [1]

[1]: https://www.wired.com/story/beware-the-epiphany-industrial-c...

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#82

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I did it myself, and right after college. It worked out OK, and I know now that making friends in your 20's is 10 times easier in your 30's, and in your 30's is ten times easier than in your 40's (though if you have kids in school that can help a little as you meet other kids' parents) But why not do it _in_ college?

It's pretty hard to move between countries when you're in college. The credit transfer situation is pretty tough. People do it, though. That's why most of the foreign students at any given college beat the pants off of the locals. I speak from experience :D

One can do an foreign exchange year during university…

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#83

The Stanford Prison Experiment was a fraud, please don't listen to rationale based on one unreproduced "study". "The context of one’s life defines not just what but how one thinks, and a job tends to dominate the context of one’s life — particularly when that job is considered to be part of a career. Your job will change you." Absolute and complete pseudoscientific bullshit. Everything in life changes you. Every. Thi…

This is very succinct while still provides a rich solution to a complex problem. Bravo.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> If you start working out 3x a week, you will continue doing this and be physically fit. If you drink alcohol 3x a week, you will continue to do this and become wrinkled and grumpy. What about working out 3x a week and drinking alcohol 3x a week? Potentially that could be a sweet spot for sociability and activity. Compared to doing neither 3x a week, what do you think would be better? Both drinking and exercise mean…

Is the alcohol really necessary? Any social relation that requires alcohol to continue does seem low value.

You can absolutely drink alcohol by yourself.

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#86

Loved the piece, but to be frank at the time when I picked software engineering as a career, most older software engineers had had extremely different life trajectories than we do nowadays.

How so?

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#87
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Should be labelled (2013). Would be nice if I didn't have to say that; in so many ways the bloom is off the rose of my (admittedly high paying) corporate job. I even recently reunited with some old friends who chose a more independent career path, and was jealous and nostalgic- they're definitely working far closer to their passions with more freedom than I've felt in a decade. But man, what a decade since 2013. I wo…

Along those lines, one of the things that I still struggle with after 20+ years of working, is squaring this feeling of not working enough/earn enough money to have a comfortable retirement, while at the same time trying to live my life and not just work myself until death (very original, I know). So I've always had this conflict with the saying that goes something like "nobody regrets not working more, while in thei…

Read this in a management magazine:

One third of retiring managers die quickly thereafter. The socond third finds a hobby and pursues it with the same ambition until everyone they know got gifted a perfect ship in a bottle and they need a new way to spend their time. One third keeps working.

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#88

It is career advice. Whether it is pretty good is debatable. To suggest that you look at people slightly ahead of you and use that as some kind of magic mirror is just so tragically flawed. First, it supposes that the you of now, inexperienced as you are, can properly evaluate not only what is going on in these older coworkers lives, but that you will also properly appreciate how your own tastes will change between n…

I always found late 40s plus developers very nice people in general. Maybe the selection bias of those who didn’t become managers or leave the profession. I agree with you though.

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#89

> As a young person, though, I think the best thing you can do is to ignore all of that and simply observe the older people working there. > They are the future you. Do not think that you will be substantially different. Look carefully at how they spend their time at work and outside of work, because this is also almost certainly how your life will look. It sounds obvious, but it’s amazing how often young people imag…

Honestly, that seems really naive. While you probably shouldn't work a job you hate, the fact is that money enables a lot of positive life choices. If you work the "absolute minimum", you are going to be stressing about a roof over your head, about where your next meal is coming from, about how to pay those unexpected medical expenses, or whatever.

Find a job you like that pays decently. Use the money to live a good life. Instead of hitchhiking to Alaska, you can take a plane.

Re: Career Advice (2013)

#90
This is all extremely bad advice.

To sum it up: work is a long endless grind that will alienate you, therefore therefore left-libertarian flavoured YOLO.

Without downplaying the existing structures of social oppression, you may be lucky to live in a country and a time where you have rights.

In that case, you need to decide for yourself what you want in life (economically).

You need to decide how much money you want, how many hours a week you want to work, how many sabbatical to take and when to retire (these choices can always be made within what the economic environment allows).

You can refuse to think about these questions, this how you’ll get trapped working for someone else’s dream.

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