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Re: macOS Sonoma is available today

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Post by WesolyKubeczek »

saagarjha wrote: post #666
Klonoar wrote: post #508

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This is my only true gripe with MacPorts. Tcl made some sense ~20 years ago but it’s 2023 and the only time I ever touch it anymore is for MacPorts itself.

Amusingly it makes a lot of sense today, by accident: Tcl happens to be one of the only scripting runtimes left on a base macOS install.

There are two versions of Perl, awk, and Ruby in a fresh Sonoma install. I would say that moving Python away into XCode tools was an easy thing to do, but to rip the others away, it will take quite an effort.

I predict that Apple will admit defeat at the very least with Perl, one of the biggest beneficiaries of the Lindy effect. It has entrenched itself so much that you won't just yank it away without some serious bleeding.

Also, there is jsc if JavaScript is what floats your boat, although it's buried quite deep.

Re: macOS Sonoma is available today

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Post by souperdeluxe »

_boffin_ wrote: post #161

Anyone know what's up with CGPDFService and why there's so many instances eating up my cpu?

Same. I have 10 CGPDFService processes running for over 24 hours. Two CPU's are at 100%, and together they're using 15GB of RAM. I can SIGKILL but they come back after 5 minutes. Some people believe they're related to the slow-mo screensaver, which I disabled in my settings. It's only happening on my Mac Studio (which isn't logged in), and not on my Macbook Air (which I'm currently using).

Re: macOS Sonoma is available today

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Post by smrtinsert »

cglong wrote: post #188

So it goes... Warning: You are using macOS 11. We (and Apple) do not provide support for this old version. It is expected behaviour that some formulae will fail to build in this old version. It is expected behaviour that Homebrew will be buggy and slow. Do not create any issues about this on Homebrew's GitHub repositories. Do not create any issues even if you think this message is unrelated. Any opened issues will be…

My blood pressure is rising just reading this...

Re: macOS Sonoma is available today

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Post by souperdeluxe »

souperdeluxe wrote: post #682
_boffin_ wrote: post #161

Anyone know what's up with CGPDFService and why there's so many instances eating up my cpu?

Same. I have 10 CGPDFService processes running for over 24 hours. Two CPU's are at 100%, and together they're using 15GB of RAM. I can SIGKILL but they come back after 5 minutes. Some people believe they're related to the slow-mo screensaver, which I disabled in my settings. It's only happening on my Mac Studio (which isn't logged in), and not on my Macbook Air (which I'm currently using).

Solution: https://www.reddit.com/r/MacOSBeta/comments/15ha2r8/comment/...

Re: macOS Sonoma is available today

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Post by mfontani »

IIsi50MHz wrote: post #678
mfontani wrote: post #219

I hope it finally sped up the slooow animation when switching spaces... but am not holding my breath...

If you're not concerned about losing other animations, you can enable the Reduced Motion setting in Accessibility preferences. It completely removes that animation.

Nope, it doesn't. It reduces it greatly, but it's still there. To disable it "fully" one has to disable SIP, and that's not a great idea.

Rather than "reduced" motion, I'd really look forward to "no" motion.

Like I had with i3wm... practically _instantaneous_ switch between spaces/virtual desktops.

Re: macOS Sonoma is available today

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Post by mfontani »

deagle50 wrote: post #297
mfontani wrote: post #219

I hope it finally sped up the slooow animation when switching spaces... but am not holding my breath...

Yabai can eliminate it entirely (after it's updated for Sonoma), if you don't mind disabling SIP.

Yup, I do. I do use Yabai, sans that modification. Disabling SIP "just" to get speedier/no animation doesn't seem like a good cost/benefit.

Re: macOS Sonoma is available today

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Post by FinalBriefing »

tacker2000 wrote: post #570
andy_ppp wrote: post #532

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I always expect endless support from free products, built by the community, that I'm not paying for or contributing to.

Of course the devs dont need to support everyone and answer every feature request. Its more nuanced than that. As a dev, i like a stable environment and i dont like to do big updates all the time, since that means i have to spend hours updating my setup again. Everytime i run brew im scared it will hose my PHP versions, etc, since it auto updates everything. To install old PHP versions one needs to hack the install f…

That's what containers are for.

Re: macOS Sonoma is available today

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Post by bustruck »

dpcx wrote: post #34
iamdamian wrote: post #27

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Updated to clarify. My expectation is that 1Password 7 won’t work on Sonoma. In my experience, AgileBits requires an upgrade for new versions of macOS. IIUC, 1Password 7 is also the last version that you can buy outright rather than paying for by subscription.

I've never had a problem using 1Password 7 on updated versions of OSX. I'm in the same boat, and am still using 1Password 7 on Ventura after having upgraded through multiple OSs.

Well then do not update to Sonoma. Otherwise your boat will sink.

Re: macOS Sonoma is available today

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Post by ksec »

avidphantasm wrote: post #215
tambourine_man wrote: post #135

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This and a container story are glaring holes in macOS. Instead we get widgets on the desktop like it’s 2005 again.

I always get downvoted for this for Craig Ferengi is a pretty boy and has to go.

I gave up and dont say something similar anymore. I am firmly on the Scott Forstall camp.

Re: macOS Sonoma is available today

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Post by bshacklett »

n8henrie wrote: post #596
bshacklett wrote: post #240

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My issue with Nix is that you are forced to install packages in a global location. Why is it that every package manager assumes I’m an administrator on my machine? Even if I am, how does it make sense to take over a global directory as a single user?

Only true for MacOS though, Linux supports a proper single-user no-root install.

Interesting. Would you mind elaborating? I'd love to give this a try, but I'm not having luck finding documentation on how to do it.
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