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Re: Hey, computer, make me a font

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Post by simonbw »

bambax wrote: post #36
lachlan_gray wrote: post #17

I found a few months ago that the gpt-4 code interpreter is capable of converting a black and white png of a glyph to an svg https://twitter.com/lfegray/status/1678787763905126400 It would be cool to combine a script like the one gpt-4 gave me with an image generation model to generate fonts. The approach from this blog post is way more interesting though. On a separate note it reminds me of this suckerpinch video :)…

The author says he achieved text-to-SVG generation but doesn't point to a code repository for it... It would be super interesting (or does gpt-4 do it natively?) That said, I'm not sure that you need GPT-4 for outlining a BW image and making a path out of it; Corel Draw did that well, over 25 years ago? So yes, another approach to what the author is doing, would be to generate font bitmaps using any of the leading im…

ChatGPT/GPT-4 does it natively. You can say "Please generate me an SVG image of a unicorn" and it will spit out the SVG code.

Re: Hey, computer, make me a font

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Post by waterheater »

gigglesupstairs wrote: post #52

"Fucking Hell" - first thing I yelled to myself when I saw that headline Kudos for the project, of course, but it just saddens me a bit more. Nothing is sacred anymore.

Let's assume the technology will eventually work.

What if you had a "personal font"? Sure, you have a user name, but what if you had a custom-generated font which communicates your personality to other people on the Internet? The font could be on a spectrum between static (generated once and reused indefinitely) and dynamic (continuous online learning of personal information causes an adjustment of the font).

I'm just making up an example here, but say you're feeling sad, and your smart technology figures out you're feeling sad. When you send a text message to family, then your personal font takes on "sad" characteristics.

Re: Hey, computer, make me a font

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Post by Rantenki »

OK, that's cool, but those fonts are all terrible. The serifs are all different sizes and shapes, sometimes on the same letter. The kerning looks like a random walk. The stroke widths are all over the place, and/or the hinting is busted.

Now, that said, it's pretty amazing that this works at all, but it'll take some pretty specific training on a model to get something that can compete with a human made font that's curated for good usability _and_ aesthetics.

Sadly, we'll also probably see adoption of these kinds of fonts (along with graphic design, illustration, songwriting, screenwriting, etc)... because "meh, good enough" combined with some Dunning-Kruger.

TL;DR: Thanks, I hate it.

Re: Hey, computer, make me a font

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Post by jeron »

Rantenki wrote: post #84

OK, that's cool, but those fonts are all terrible. The serifs are all different sizes and shapes, sometimes on the same letter. The kerning looks like a random walk. The stroke widths are all over the place, and/or the hinting is busted. Now, that said, it's pretty amazing that this works at all, but it'll take some pretty specific training on a model to get something that can compete with a human made font that's cu…

I don't think any self respecting graphic designer would use these fonts in its current state but it's a cool proof of concept and could be improved upon to a more usable state

Re: Hey, computer, make me a font

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Post by BoorishBears »

Rantenki wrote: post #84

OK, that's cool, but those fonts are all terrible. The serifs are all different sizes and shapes, sometimes on the same letter. The kerning looks like a random walk. The stroke widths are all over the place, and/or the hinting is busted. Now, that said, it's pretty amazing that this works at all, but it'll take some pretty specific training on a model to get something that can compete with a human made font that's cu…

> Sadly, we'll also probably see adoption of these kinds of fonts (along with graphic design, illustration, songwriting, screenwriting, etc)... because "meh, good enough" combined with some Dunning-Kruger.

Ironic bringing up Dunning-Kruger as you treat generic RLHF as a "pretty specific training" and make sweeping declarations about how people will use AI as if the current SOTA of several of the tasks you just mentioned didn't come from not settling for "meh, good enough" and instead applying the "pretty specific training" you alluded to (see Midjourney)

Re: Hey, computer, make me a font

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Post by [deleted] »

speps wrote: post #60
alana314 wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's amazing. One of my favorite things to do with copilot is to comment something like "//white arrow pointing right" and then start "<svg" and have it complete it. If it doesn't get it right the first time I update my comment. Saves me time searching for the right SVG and digging through free but really paid image sites.

And it saves you having to credit anyone, win-win!

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Re: Hey, computer, make me a font

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Post by mock-possum »

philipwhiuk wrote: post #18

> To train the model, I assembled a dataset of 71k distinct fonts. I give it a week before Monotype sues your face off.

Not this agin /eyeroll

It’s not illegal for a human to look through 71,000 fonts and then creat their own. It can’t be illegal for a human to use a robot to look through the fonts for them.

Re: Hey, computer, make me a font

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Post by mock-possum »

gigglesupstairs wrote: post #52

"Fucking Hell" - first thing I yelled to myself when I saw that headline Kudos for the project, of course, but it just saddens me a bit more. Nothing is sacred anymore.

‘Anymore’ ha

You don’t actually believe anything was ever sacred to being with do you?

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