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Re: Hey, computer, make me a font

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> To train the model, I assembled a dataset of 71k distinct fonts. I give it a week before Monotype sues your face off.

Copyright around fonts may not support such a suit in the same as way as works of art. Wikipedia says: "In the United States, the shapes of typefaces are not eligible for copyright but may be protected by design patent (although it is rarely applied for, the first US design patent that was ever awarded was for a typeface).[1]" So just scanning the rendered font (as opposed to the code that generates it), may be harde…

The interesting thing about law is that even if the law doesn't absolutely protect you; the person that you believe infringing on your work for free had better be prepared to pony up lawyer fees to defend their work.

I think this would be one of the few times where I think that's useful. Typefaces take a lot of time and consideration and work to create so just blanket ripping off that work because we all take them for granted is kind of bullshit.

I have conflicting thoughts about this.

But at the end of the day if you only trained on open fonts they just aren't generally as good and the output should be not generally as good as opposed to training on nicer fonts that you technically don't have the rights to (but no one thoughts of this being an issue at the time of design patents / etc ).

But we're now in the world where we will pay money to compute an AI model to design fonts instead of just paying designers to design fonts. The race to the bottom is accelerating at an alarming rate.

Re: Hey, computer, make me a font

#54

I found a few months ago that the gpt-4 code interpreter is capable of converting a black and white png of a glyph to an svg https://twitter.com/lfegray/status/1678787763905126400 It would be cool to combine a script like the one gpt-4 gave me with an image generation model to generate fonts. The approach from this blog post is way more interesting though. On a separate note it reminds me of this suckerpinch video :)…

That's amazing. One of my favorite things to do with copilot is to comment something like "//white arrow pointing right" and then start "<svg" and have it complete it. If it doesn't get it right the first time I update my comment. Saves me time searching for the right SVG and digging through free but really paid image sites.

This is such a good idea. Not sure why svg code escaped my mind as something copilot would be good at.

Re: Hey, computer, make me a font

#55
Douglas Hofstader, the author of Godel Escher Bach, thought the task of creating fonts could only be solved with general AI.

https://www.m-u-l-t-i-p-l-i-c-i-t-y.org/media/pdf/Metafont-M...

The Letter Spirit project aims to model artistic creativity by designing stylistically uniform "gridfonts" (typefaces limited to a grid).

Re: Hey, computer, make me a font

#56
post #53

"Fucking Hell" - first thing I yelled to myself when I saw that headline Kudos for the project, of course, but it just saddens me a bit more. Nothing is sacred anymore.

>Nothing is sacred anymore. If it can be specified, it can be automated.

I know, I know. I am not disputing the technicalities.

Re: Hey, computer, make me a font

#58

"Fucking Hell" - first thing I yelled to myself when I saw that headline Kudos for the project, of course, but it just saddens me a bit more. Nothing is sacred anymore.

> Kudos for the project, of course, but it just saddens me a bit more. Nothing is sacred anymore.

Why does this sadden you?

I'm quite happy everything is being done by AI, time will be freed for other things that are more important.

Manual font making will not go away though and now anyone can make their own fonts for free.

Re: Hey, computer, make me a font

#60

I found a few months ago that the gpt-4 code interpreter is capable of converting a black and white png of a glyph to an svg https://twitter.com/lfegray/status/1678787763905126400 It would be cool to combine a script like the one gpt-4 gave me with an image generation model to generate fonts. The approach from this blog post is way more interesting though. On a separate note it reminds me of this suckerpinch video :)…

That's amazing. One of my favorite things to do with copilot is to comment something like "//white arrow pointing right" and then start "<svg" and have it complete it. If it doesn't get it right the first time I update my comment. Saves me time searching for the right SVG and digging through free but really paid image sites.

And it saves you having to credit anyone, win-win!
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